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exiler96 03-28-25 02:59 AM

Films after which you felt like crap
 
The Silence (1963)
Nostalghia (1983)
The Seventh Continent (1989)

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Holden Pike 03-28-25 05:51 AM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
Little Nicky, Freddie Got Fingered, Gigli, Cats....

skizzerflake 03-28-25 04:59 PM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
From way back, one I recall was The Pawnbroker, seen at a festival. That movie was so grim. I've never rewatched it and don't plan to. It broke ground in several ways (nudity, depictions of the holocaust, racism, etc) but damn, I don't want to go there for entertainment.

AgrippinaX 03-28-25 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by skizzerflake (Post 2546740)
From way back, one I recall was The Pawnbroker. That movie was so grim. I've never rewatched it and don't plan to.
True. I still think it’s a remarkable film.

skizzerflake 03-28-25 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by AgrippinaX (Post 2546741)
True. I still think it’s a remarkable film.
Indeed it was, but still.....damn.

BigBendHiker68 03-28-25 07:36 PM

Off the top of my head ..


Joker
Uncut Gems
Melancholia
Antichrist



I think all four are really good films, but I felt like taking a three hour bath after seeing each of them ...

stillmellow 03-28-25 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by BigBendHiker68 (Post 2546787)
Off the top of my head ..


Joker
Uncut Gems
Melancholia
Antichrist



I think all four are really good films, but I felt like taking a three hour bath after seeing each of them ...


That's an interesting list of films. The running theme appears to be 'how people react to terrible situations'. What's interesting is the one example of the four that was going to always end the most terribly (melancholia) has the most upbeat ending, of the four.


All three of the other films ended terribly, and arguably none of them had to. They all could've cut their losses, walked away, and had a fresh start tomorrow. Instead, they either chose violence, demanded far more (resulting in tragedy), or both.


It's only when faced with hopelessness do the characters simply curl up together, peacefully, and accept the inevitable.


It's not the 'hope,' for more that dooms them. It's the DEMAND for more. In relationships, careers, or simply money. What they have is never enough.


I know this isn't on topic, but the list fascinated me.

Robert the List 03-28-25 08:12 PM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
Chinatown
Se7en
Out of the Past

stillmellow 03-28-25 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Robert the List (Post 2546816)
Chinatown
Se7en
Out of the Past

I definitely 'get' Chinatown being on that list. Arguably one of the most heartbreaking endings ever.


WARNING: spoilers below
It isn't that it's just sad, or that the good guys lose, and the villain gets everything he wants. It's that there never was any way for the heroes to win. It doesn't even matter how much proof you have. The system was rigged from the start. It was always hopeless. It's Chinatown.

stillmellow 03-28-25 08:29 PM

It was so heartbreaking, The sequel the Two Jakes
WARNING: spoilers below
revisits the daughter character from the first movie at the end, just to show she's okay, and more or less say directly to the audience that her father/grandfather never really recovered from the gunshot, died shortly afterwards, and never had the chance to hurt her.


You know you've traumatized audiences when the sequel goes out of its way to soften the ending of the previous movie.

I_Wear_Pants 03-28-25 08:41 PM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
Elephant Man made me sad. I remember staring at the floor for a few minutes after finishing it not really knowing what to do. The movie is great and I applaud David Lynch for doing a commendable job on his project. I just can't watch it again. It's too heart-breaking.

Schindler's List also made me feel empty. For some reason I watched it a second time. All I wanted to do after each viewing was take a nap and sleep away the depression. Again; this film is excellent and I have no complaints about it as a movie. It's just so bleak and depressing.

Visitor Q made me question why I'd want to make films if shit like that gets made. What a crock of turds. It made me feel gross and sick. I hated everything about it. I normally love Miike's work. This made me want to punch him in the face.

ueno_station54 03-29-25 01:18 AM

pretty sure i cried for a full hour after the garden lmao

Little Ash 03-29-25 01:31 AM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
The words I always use to describe The Third Part of the Night, "bleak" and "enervating". Both as a positive descriptor, but something for which I need an emotional palate cleanser afterwards.

TheManBehindTheCurtain 03-29-25 01:58 AM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
Through college and early work years, I didn't own a TV. Somewhere in the early 80s I finally invested and I think I might have had a cable subscription to Showtime or some other movie channel. One of the first movies I watch at home was made-for-TV movie, "Griffin and Phoenix" (1976). Peter Falk and Jill Clayburgh. I know if I revisited it might not hold up. But at that time in my life ... well, I turned off the TV, went to bed, and struggled not to bawl. I know it was remade in 2006 but I won't take the time to track that down; from the Wikipedia writeup I can tell they pulled some punches. If I'm going to go through that again, I want the full punch in the gut.

Captain Quint 03-29-25 02:07 AM

Re: Films after which you felt like crap
 
Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2546867)
The words I always use to describe The Third Part of the Night, "bleak" and "enervating". Both as a positive descriptor, but something for which I need an emotional palate cleanser afterwards.
That's how I felt after watching the brilliant Come and See, just drained. Did I feel like crap? Mmm, that's not how I'd describe what I felt, it was more, yes, enervating.

And awful, stupid movies can make me feel an anger, but again, not crappy. Sadness doesn't suit that word for me either (tears, for example, can be cathartic), but what does, If I'm equating 'crap' with feeling 'rotten' afterwards, let's see...

Elsewhere on the forum I mentioned that The Killing of a Sacred Deer made me feel like someone had taken a sh** on my soul, so that was literally a crappy moment in cinema for me.

Salo... I wish I'd never seen that, I get there's a message there and your supposed to be disturbed and disgusted, but the young people looked so young -maybe they weren't, maybe they were in their 20s, but some of them looked around 15, 16, and the nudity and sexual abuse was just more than I could take. It would have been awful with older people in the roles too, but the youthful appearance of some of them made it worse, made me feel sick and grubby.

stillmellow 03-29-25 03:11 AM

Confession: I found "The Killing of a Sacred Deer" kind of funny, in an absurdist sort of way. I've always thought of it as dark satire, rather than a something to be taken literally.


What's the difference between dark satire and just a very dark movie? Why is one far easier for me to watch? I'm not sure. Maybe it comes down to expectations.

I_Wear_Pants 03-29-25 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Quint (Post 2546873)
That's how I felt after watching the brilliant Come and See, just drained. Did I feel like crap? Mmm, that's not how I'd describe what I felt, it was more, yes, enervating.
I remember being mad at Come and See. I love the direction it took and the ambition it had and yet the execution just felt hollow. I don't know if it was my disliking of the teenaged performers or just what. I remember thinking, "When will it crush me?" and it never fully did. Were my expectations too high? Probably. It could also be the Eastern Europe/Soviet Union atmosphere of the 1980s cinema I didn't like. I don't like pretty much any European (West or East) movie, except British or Italian in English, and the occasional German.

Captain Quint 03-29-25 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by stillmellow (Post 2546888)
Confession: I found "The Killing of a Sacred Deer" kind of funny, in an absurdist sort of way. I've always thought of it as dark satire, rather than a something to be taken literally.


What's the difference between dark satire and just a very dark movie? Why is one far easier for me to watch? I'm not sure. Maybe it comes down to expectations.
A few people have said that, but I never found it funny, nor anything from that screenwriter as a matter of fact. And I like black comedy, but if Efthymis Filippou is shooting for that, it's not working on that level, at least not for me.

ueno_station54 03-29-25 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Quint (Post 2546891)
A few people have said that, but I never found it funny, nor anything from that screenwriter as a matter of fact. And I like black comedy, but if Efthymis Filippou is shooting for that, it's not working on that level, at least not for me.
funnily enough i regularly hear Salo described as a comedy too.

markdc 03-29-25 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by exiler96 (Post 2546550)
The Silence (1963)
Originally Posted by exiler96 (Post 2546550)
Nostalghia (1983)
The Seventh Continent (1989)

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The movie that made me feel most like crap after watching it was The Elephant Man. Cinematically, it’s a great movie, but spending two hours watching people abuse, exploit, mock, and torment a poor guy for no other reason than that he had the terrible luck to be severely deformed at birth really gives you a pessimistic view in humanity. The Elephant Man is a fascinating study in how a person can be ugly on the outside and beautiful on the inside while many around him may look nice on the outside but are grotesque on the inside, but if you’re looking for a good time, go with Dumb and Dumber instead.

Mark



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