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Iron Man and Thor led to The Avengers, those movies were the building blocks to a massive comic book cross over on screen. And it was awesome!

My issue with Man of Steel is that the darker tone and the "super hero set in reality" thing does not work for Superman. It worked great for Batman because his character is dark. He has no super powers and his rogue's gallery are littered with villains with no super powers. Nolan's style worked great there even when they strayed from the comic. But how are you going to base Superman in reality? When I watch Iron Man or Thor, I know I am watching a movie based of a comic character and those movies reflected that feel. This movie failed to deliver.

And you do not have to go full blown Adam West camp for a good Superman movie. Hell the Animated series did serious stories all the time. He had problems in that show, there was drama, and plenty of action too. But it also knew what it was. Either way I fail to see the appeal of this movie.



"Hey Look it's Masterman"
It was. And I am having a hard time deciding which was the worse movie.
You can't be serious?.



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I didn't hate this film, but did check out in the last hour where I did not during The Avengers. So I agree with gunslinger about the difference between Man Of Steel and Avengers, but agree with Masterman that it is far superior to Returns.
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"Hey Look it's Masterman"
It was. And I am having a hard time deciding which was the worse movie.
Oh I am dead serious. I can't decide if whiny emo Superman or dull and unheroic Superman was worse. That is how much I did not like this movie.
Neg Repped.



I didn't hate this film, but did check out in the last hour where I did not during The Avengers. So I agree with gunslinger about the difference between Man Of Steel and Avengers, but agree with Masterman that it is far superior to Returns.
At least you guys got WAY more out of this movie then I did.



After reboots of almost every commonly known superhero movie we didn’t had to wait long for a new Superman although the last one was only 7 years ago. Creative minds behind Man of Steel were the same that gave us The Dark Knight trilogy, Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer, while Zack Snyder (300, Watchmen) got to visualize it.
Approach was very similar as the one in The Dark Knight trilogy so it’s hard not to occasionally compare two of them. Main idea is to show what Superman would be in real world just like it was with latest Batman. That, of course, implies much darker, both story and visualization of Superman than before.
Nolan and Goyer gave us new perspectives on few things, such as how he came by his costume and what the S on it means, he’s relationship with Lois and we get completely new, action packed, look at the Jor-El presented by Russell Crowe.
In movie’s prologue we see happenings at Krypton just before its demise. We are for the first time introduced with Krypton's politics, military and history in an action packed sequence in witch General Zod (Michael Shannon), Krypton's military ruler, tries to overthrow the government which led the planet to its inevitable destruction while Jor-El (Russell Crowe) is trying to save his newborn son by sending him away from decaying planet.
After the prologue movie continues with 33 years old Clark Kent who wanders around the Earth and occasionally saves people until he finds old Kryptonian space ship who’s activation attracts General Zod and his men while the Clark’s youth is shown in flashbacks which are somewhat connected with happenings in real time.

Screenwriting is far from being special in any way but it’s a solid origin story of a 75 years old comic book. There’s a big impression that Goyer’s motto was: If you’re stuck just do it like in Batman, what isn’t all bad, we all liked Batman but we don’t want the same thing over and over again. It’s not only Batman, there’s even a little bit of Avatar and Transformers in this. To be short, it looks like mishmash of everything that was successful recently.
The great thing in this Superman story is that Superman isn’t all nice guy, while Zod isn’t embodiment of evil. Superman actually kills people here, both indirectly and directly and he just watches some of them die while Zod just does his job. Both Henry Cavill as Superman and Michael Shannon as General Zod earned their paycheck. Shannon’s Zod is definitely best one on screen ever while there will be a big number of fans that will think the same for Cavill’s Superman.
Amy Adams as Lois Lane is a very good. This was the third time that she tried to embody her and she made sure that she will be Lois for at least one more time which was very hard since Lois was terribly written. It looks like whole movie was written without her and at the end somebody said: We have to have Lois Lane in this!, so Goyer just inserted her randomly in the scenes. There is so much boredom, coincidence and stupidity and so little logic and sense in scenes that include Lois that the one has to ask did they really forgot about her and inserted her later or does Goyer and Nolan hate her so much. But that’s still nothing compared to the tornado scene which makes almost every man watching it to feel ashamed on behalf of writers.
Although there is only one group of Supermen’s nemesis there are few big battles with another few minor conflicts which are all nicely done but it made movie unnecessarily long which will cause polarization between viewers since the part of them who will not like the movie will hate it more because of endless action while the other part will enjoy in it.
Nolan and Goyer should have spent more time in developing deeper story and characters instead of playing with easter eggs. There’s even a short scene dedicated to producer Jon Peters which will be one of the best parts of movie for all those familiar with his ideas for never filmed Superman reboot with Nicholas Cage.

On the other hand Zack Snyder did his job almost flawless. Main battle sequence is pornography for action lovers. Visual effects are top of the class, just like complete scenery and music by, one and only, Hans Zimmer. I was kind of happily expecting random slow motions scenes from Snyder but I guess it wasn’t compatible with realistic approach that Nolan and Goyer imagined.
There is a great amount of CGI but the good thing is that they tried to film everything they could without it, on real sets, so it didn’t end like 300 as some were afraid.

Man of steel is very good origin reboot, nice start of potentially great trilogy and, despite bad acceptance among critics, hit among the fans. Screenwriting could have been much better and I expect great improvement in sequel while it’s hard to make visually better one I’ll be modest and expect the same level on that.
Although the movie has deeper context, even the religious one, it’s in the first place for superhero and action lovers or as we’re used to say, it’s blockbuster and in that genre it scores pretty high.
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You thought the tornado scene was moving? In all respect, I thought that was the dumbest scene in the entire movie. He just stood there and waved? Who does that?
Hahaha. Yeah, I know what you mean.



"Hey Look it's Masterman"
Hahaha. Yeah, I know what you mean.
How can you know what he means?. He clearly doesn't wave.



I know that he held up his hand signaling stop, but after that I swear I remember a wave. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, it was a bad scene. It's hard to feel any emotion when a character lacking any personality dies. Even if they play sad music during it.



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Well just where to start with this trainwreck of a Superman movie.

BEWARE SPOILERS!

The 10 deadly Sins of Man of Steel.

WARNING: "Man of Steel Spoilers" spoilers below
1. Too much CGI, and a lot of it bad. The fight scenes have that "Matrix Revolutions feel" super beings giving each other super punches through the air and city, only Matrix Rev does it better. In Superman 2 when Genaral Zod and Superman face off in the street it is much more fun to watch that these super CGI mess battles. You can barely tell what the hell is happening for most of it. I swear I enjoyed the fight in the city at the end of Superman 2 more that the CGI battles here.

2. Flashbacks to childhood like Batman Begins. Superman 1978 was much better for seeing Clark Kent grow up, instead we get the silly Deadliest catch CGI Oil rig rescue at the start rather than gradually building up to a big rescue scene, then every know and again we get a nugget form Clark's childhood. Just didn't work imo.

3. Bad Casting in basically every role. Micheal Shannon was ok as Zod but it just feels like we need someone a little older, a little more thespian, and a little more of a heavyweight actor. Lois Lane is almost totally miscast, I like Amy Adams but she is just NOT Lois Lane. Should have been someone a little better looking. Henry Cavill isn't up to much either, Mr Boring with the perfect physique and not much else going for him. Very wooden. Classic Superman characters like Perry White, Jimmy Olsen are barely in the movie, and their scenes feel a bit pointless. Russell Crowe just doesn't feel like a Jor El and looks like he is coasting along a bit. The best actor by far is Kevin Costner doing a very good Jonathan Kent, but we barely see any of him at all.

4. They tried to fit 2 movies into 1. The original Superman 1 and 2 had it down cold. You let the first movie be about Superman's origin, coming out with a brief introduction to Zod, a bit like Batman Begins where we get the Joker teaser at the end, THEN in the second movie you bring out the arch nemesis. In this movie we barely see Superman at all before we have Zod arriving saying "give us Kal-El" and everyone on Earth being like "Who"?

5. Where is Superman's green crystal and Fortress of Solitude? Luckily there is a crashed ship form Krypton that has been there for 20,000 years and only know have they discovered it, Wut? Some of my favourite scenes form Superman 1 and 2 are the Green crystal moments with that epic John Williams score in the backround. The barn scene and the repowering scene form 2. Nowhere near that sort of epicness here.

6. Hans Zimmer's score is poor successor to John Williams epic score. I like Hans Zimmer but there is just no magic here.

7. There is no chemistry between Superman and Lois Lane. Straight away Lois knows who he is and we are robbed of that interesting dynamic of Lois loving Superman but barely noticing Clark Kent. Towards the end they appear to be in love and I was like, Wut? where did that come from?

8. Topless Men's Fitness coverboy Kal-El. Is it really necessary that Superman be soooo muscular, perfect pecs and six pack when all he seems to do is drift around. Obviously Superman should be tall and muscular but not looking like a magazine coverboy. I mean he looks too muscular in the suit aswell. Tone it down a bit, Superman doesn't need to be Mr Olympia.

9. Too much action, the movie never slows down to let us breathe or allow the characters to develop. Action on Krypton then straight into Oil Rig save, then into action packed incidents from childhood, then Zod shows up and the last hour is non stop action. Story should come before action but here it's like a martial arts movie in that all the focus is on the action and the story...well there wasn't one.

10. Most movies like this have an awesome moment or 2. Like Superman Returns where Superman saves the plane about half an hour in. That scene where you might go and watch again on You Tube. Well I've been racking my brain and I realised that Man of Steel has no such moment. No awesome scene that I will be watching 50 times on You Tube. None. If there is one can somebody let me know what it was please.



3/10

How I would rank Superman Movies;

1. Superman (1978)
2. Superman 2 (1980)
3. Superman Returns (2006)
4. Superman 3 (1983)
5. Man of Steel (2013)
6. Superman 4: The Quest for Peace (1987)

If you want to enjoy Superman then dust off you old Superman 1 and 2 dvd's that have been gathering dust because that is still the only way to enjoy Superman on the big screen.



Man Of Steel Did it came out already?



Gandalf26 you rank Superman III above Man of Steel? Damn I didn't go that far! Good to know I ain't the only guy who sees this movie as a bad movie. I still can't say I think Superman III is better, mostly because I have not seen that sequel since like 1989 or so. lol



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At least Superman 3 has that awesome good Superman vs Bad Superman scene at the Garbage dump. Where is the awesome scene in Man of Steel?

Man of Steel sucked. So disappointed.

Is this the same Zack Synder that made awesome Watchmen?



At least Superman 3 has that awesome good Superman vs Bad Superman scene at the Garbage dump. Where is the awesome scene in Man of Steel?

Man of Steel sucked. So disappointed.

Is this the same Zack Synder that made awesome Watchmen?
The only scene in the movie that really got my attention was the oil rig scene.

But still, I was very disappointed with what was shown. No argument there.



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I thought Man of Steel was a pretty damn good Superman movie. I actually like the darker tone they set this universe in, and I like Superman's development in it because of it. It's about time the man of steel got a more mature story, I say. And I've heard some people complain about it having too many action scenes when my only complaint about the previous films is that they didn't have enough action. My only problems with the film are these: the overuse of shaky cam during the action scenes made me nauseous, and the human characters needed more development. Other than that, I don't really see anything wrong with the film.