Music! What makes your blood boil?

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ohhhh... a red rubber ball... is it shiny?
Yes, that's just the thing = after you die there's no heaven, there's no God, we were all wrong... it just a big red rubber ball!



The only sh*t is coming from you, since WHEN is expressing an opinion being closed minded, did I tell YOU your music was crap? NO, I just said I didn't like it. what the F**K is the matter with some people of this site. Time to start complaining to the admin.
The fact is.... I owned MY OPINIONS.... I never said everyone should agree with me... did I? So rather than me getting abusive with you... I'll do like any former Brit colonist would say.... P**S off ... oh, and have a nice day.
It was MY OPINION!!! Live with it, if you cannot live with it, then F**K OFF, no one is forcing you to post here OR making you NOT listen to the music YOU LIKE.... right?


But seriously dude, if you're sick, I think it's better to spend your time with your family rather than waste it on wanton Internet quarrels.
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Well, it certainly is clear that people are just as passionate about their music as they are about the movies they love.
As for me, I have very eclectic tastes, Tchaikovsky, Strauss, Green Day and Foo Fighters.
I love the musical scores of John Williams, John Barry, Elmer Bernstein and Bernard Herrmann.
Pop, ballads, rock, heavy metal...I don't even know how most would be classified. For me it's on a song by song basis.

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Wow what an overactive *******. And a hypocrite for calling everyone else children when he acts like that. And in denial for being close minded. I used to be somewhat like that when I was younger. Glad I grew out of it.
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Kind of amazing nobody reported any of this to me (I'm just seeing it now). I was going to go through and wipe out a couple of pages of posts, but I guess it's mostly died down, and unfortunately I can't find a way to delete the slightly-over-the-line stuff without having to delete a lot of perfectly reasonable responses.

For future reference, two salient facts to consider:

1) Something being an opinion does not preclude it from criticism.
2) Opinions can be expressed in more or less confrontational ways.

"I don't care for music genre X" is a pretty benign opinion. "Music genre X is stupid and not really music" is a pretty provocative one. You should be prepared for disagreement on either, because this is a public forum and not just a private chat with a friend, but you should definitely expect it on the second, which actually sounds like it was deliberately phrased to generate controversy.



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I'm not old, you're just 12.
A friend of mine when I was younger always said "a good tune is a good tune," and I tend to live by that. There's something good (to me) in every single genre. I'm not going to disparage anyone's taste in anything, it's all subjective, but I can also never say "I don't like (fill in whatever genre here," because I always end up finding something that surprises me. I can even say with all seriousness that Miley Cyrus has some great tunes. "Wrecking Ball" is just intense and cathartic.

My personal favorite music almost always comes from the 1970's or 90's. Those are probably my two favorite decades. That said, as I get older, I appreciate some of my teenage favorites less. Nirvana was my favorite band at 15, now I think that with the exception of a few songs, they're not as great as everyone says. Nevermind is still a great hard rock album, but In Utero is just a grating mess of bad songcraft with a few decent singles. Other bands, like Smashing Pumpkins and Primus just go up in my esteem as the years go by.
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You can't handle the truth!
You weren't mistaken, adults might disagree with your antiquated views and they are free to say so.

You aren't wrong and i don't think anyone is saying you are you've just came in with controversial opinions and members that disagree are going to say so.

I'm not bullying you mate read my last couple of posts back please.
YES, free to disagree, but NOT to flame and insult. SERIOUSLY.... do you think their response was OK, then this site has a major problem. If you want controversial, I'll tell you what I REALLY think of Trump, and a few of my other opinions regarding the state of the USA right now... and most of all, its people, some Americans think democracy was invented in the USA, they think Jesus was an American and go look at all the YOutube videos where Americans cannot even answer general knowledge questions... and its not getting any better, its getting worse if you compare the videos from 5 years ago to today.

Ask them who the V.P. and they don't know, but ask them who Kim K is and they know what Kim had for breakfast for the part 6 months....

The thing is, if this were an ADULT site, then the ADULTS here would know all about opinions and closed minds, but they DON'T... the fact that it was Americans that attacked me speaks VOLUMES of the state of your education system. The first thing we learn is to feel free to voice an opinion, controversial or not, others will respect you, they may disagree or agree, but they will respect you and state their opinion, which will also be respected.

In this thread, I have been abused, insulted, flamed and lied about... and you consider that NORMAL for an "adult" site?

An adult would have disagreed with me, said so but also said I was entitled to hold my opinion....

SOME on this site are NOT adults. We may disagree on that point, but flaming, abusing and bullying IS NEVER OK.... *NEVER*

So STOP trying to blame me by saying it was a controversial subject... it WASN'T..... a controversial subject is like this...

"Most Americans are stupid and arrogant, they think the sun shines out of their A-holes, and we not only laugh at them, but pity them..... And our leaders are not crooks who lie on an hourly basis!"

Now I do NOT agree with that opinion (except the last bit)... but its one that is spread far and wide by the non American peoples, because of exactly what happened to me here and YOUR reaction to it.

I know there are good people here, SMART people, the one that came up with the movie title I was looking for in a matter of hours is a case in point... but you also have the trolls... the "you cannot have an opinion, you have a closed mind"... and then try to bully me into leaving the site.... seriously???? You're OK with that???? If they refuse to hear another opinion without getting stupid and start bullying then it is their minds that are closed....

Bullying is NEVER OK!
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the fact that it was Americans that attacked me speaks VOLUMES of the state of your education system.
I'm Scottish, Iroqouis is Australian.

So STOP trying to blame me by saying it was a controversial subject... it WASN'T..... a controversial subject is like this...
Of course it is a controversial subject. You said new music is terrible and specific popular genres aren't music. People aren't going to take kindly to their tastes and interests being attacked in that way.

"Most Americans are stupid and arrogant, they think the sun shines out of their A-holes, and we not only laugh at them, but pity them..... And our leaders are not crooks who lie on an hourly basis!"
I'd go for xenophobic and ignorant but controversial works too, sure.

I know there are good people here, SMART people, the one that came up with the movie title I was looking for in a matter of hours is a case in point... but you also have the trolls... the "you cannot have an opinion, you have a closed mind"... and then try to bully me into leaving the site.... seriously???? You're OK with that???? If they refuse to hear another opinion without getting stupid and start bullying then it is their minds that are closed....

Bullying is NEVER OK!
I disagree that people were bullying you, you've given as good as you got. You've called everyone children among loads of other things. Anyway, don't think this is going anywhere everyone should probably just drop it at this point.



You can't handle the truth!
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  2. Avoid putting down the other person's ideas and beliefs. If you've ever been on the receiving end of someone's tirade or put-downs, you know how valuable using respectful language and behavior can be. So instead of saying what you might be thinking ("That's a stupid idea!"), try: "I don't agree, and here's why." Resist the temptation to yell, use sarcasm, or make derogatory comments and you'll have a much better chance of getting your point across.
  3. Use "I" statements to communicate how you feel, what you think, and what you want or need. Using "you" statements can sound argumentative. For example, telling your mom or dad, "You always remind me about my chores on Wednesdays when you know I have a lot of homework" has a very different tone from "I'm feeling pressured because I have a lot of homework tonight. Can I do those chores tomorrow?"
  4. Listen to the other point of view. Being a good listener is a way of showing that you respect and understand the other person's perspective. That makes it more likely he or she will do the same for you. When the other person is talking, try to stop yourself from thinking about why you disagree or what you'll say next. Instead, focus on what's being said. When it's your turn to talk, repeat any key points the other person made to show you listened and heard what was said. Then calmly present your case and why you disagree.
  5. Stay calm. This is the most important thing you can do to keep a conversation on track. Of course, it's a huge challenge to stay calm and rational when you feel angry or passionate about something — especially if the person you're talking to gets heated. You may need to be the mature one who manages the conversation, even if the other person is a parent or someone who should know better.
Respect goes beyond difficult conversations, of course. Being helpful and considerate toward family members, teachers, or coaches in our everyday actions helps all of us (again, parents included!) establish a foundation for those times when we might disagree.



You can't handle the truth!
I'm Scottish, Iroqouis is Australian.



Of course it is a controversial subject. You said new music is terrible and specific popular genres aren't music. People aren't going to take kindly to their tastes and interests being attacked in that way.



I'd go for xenophobic and ignorant but controversial works too, sure.



I disagree that people were bullying you, you've given as good as you got. You've called everyone children among loads of other things. Anyway, don't think this is going anywhere everyone should probably just drop it at this point.
I wasn't refering to YOU attacking me... but the others. The word Iroquois is actually American, a name of an Indian tribe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois

I was giving as good as I got AFTER the attacks started, please, feel free to show me in my first post where I was abusive.

You do NOTHING to help this site... you are just showing me that you will side with the trolls because you have known them longer????

Man oh man,.... and I'm still having to defend myself ....



[*]Avoid putting down the other person's ideas and beliefs. If you've ever been on the receiving end of someone's tirade or put-downs, you know how valuable using respectful language and behavior can be. So instead of saying what you might be thinking ("That's a stupid idea!"), try: "I don't agree, and here's why." Resist the temptation to yell, use sarcasm, or make derogatory comments and you'll have a much better chance of getting your point across.[*]Stay calm. This is the most important thing you can do to keep a conversation on track. Of course, it's a huge challenge to stay calm and rational when you feel angry or passionate about something — especially if the person you're talking to gets heated. You may need to be the mature one who manages the conversation, even if the other person is a parent or someone who should know better.
You should probably carefully read these two.



Man, I was gettin' hiiiigh, high HIGH last night on the red, bebeh! Glad things have calmed down, though.

A ll prog metal is trash except dredg el cielo..there, I said it, lol



Man, I was gettin' hiiiigh, high HIGH last night on the red, bebeh! Glad things have calmed down, though.

A ll prog metal is trash except dredg el cielo..there, I said it, lol
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