[quote=WHITBISSELL!][quote=doubledenim][center][img]https://media2.giphy.com/media/fBMhIOYWtmiJBbbBa5/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952z5y4n8fnu7rvnxkf1j8tkokdntvkur5x2ad46w3e&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g[/img][/center][/quote]JUST JERK HIM ALREADY![/quote]

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[quote=John McClane]I just know I can’t ever watch the show again because of Bryan Singer[/quote]

[quote=AgrippinaX][quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=AgrippinaX][quote=John McClane]it’s not the surgery and the pain that makes House a horrible person. he was always a horrible person from the way people talked about him before all that. but what truly made him toxic was being an addict. dude was addicted to solving medical mysteries and being right. he didn’t care about anything else. and that’s why he’s an ASS[/quote]

I mean, that’s fair.  But I don’t think that makes someone an ass. If by ‘anything else’ we mean ‘people’, I don’t think it’s fair to judge someone for not caring about other people. It’s almost something uncontrollable. (I personally think House does care about people in his own way).[/quote]
House made it clear that he only cared about solving problems and not the people associated with the problem. He only cared about being right. His treatment of his colleagues and patients were reprehensible. And this isn’t about his addiction either.  He once said he envied a mentally challenged person because they didn’t have to act polite in accordance with societies norms.[/quote]

I didn’t say anything about his addiction originally, that wasn’t me, so I agree addiction isn’t particularly relevant to his personality. I don’t know, I guess having worked in a fair few toxic jobs, I feel for him even in this environment. About the mentally challenged person, I even feel that one in my own way because I’ve always struggled socially and sometimes it feels like you just can’t win with ‘social norms’. I was treated by a doctor after all other doctors internationally gaslit me saying there was nothing wrong with me. My doctor for my life-changing surgery was personable, but he did encroach on a few of my personal boundaries, he tried bringing my family into things even when I wasn’t comfortable with it. He was no House, but I think he cared about figuring out what was wrong and fixing it more than he cared about my feelings, and I think that’s okay. He did the job, that’s what matters. It’s a complicated subject for sure, but I’m not sure I’d have even agreed to the surgery if a doctor was all ‘oh it’s entirely up to you, keep living as you’ve been living if you feel like it’, even though that surgery changed my life. So yeah, I don’t think it’s a clear-cut thing, but I also disagree that we should prioritise empathy and social norms over hard medical expertise. My family doctor who’s treated my family for about 40 years is the opposite of them both, a very ethically driven, religious woman. She makes me very uncomfortable, the type of person that tells kids not to get braces because ‘you’re beautiful just the way you are’. So I think it’s all about what types of personality work for the patient, and it definitely isn’t always cheesy Cameron-type people.[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=AgrippinaX][quote=John McClane]it’s not the surgery and the pain that makes House a horrible person. he was always a horrible person from the way people talked about him before all that. but what truly made him toxic was being an addict. dude was addicted to solving medical mysteries and being right. he didn’t care about anything else. and that’s why he’s an ASS[/quote]

I mean, that’s fair.  But I don’t think that makes someone an ass. If by ‘anything else’ we mean ‘people’, I don’t think it’s fair to judge someone for not caring about other people. It’s almost something uncontrollable. (I personally think House does care about people in his own way).[/quote]
House made it clear that he only cared about solving problems and not the people associated with the problem. He only cared about being right. His treatment of his colleagues and patients were reprehensible. And this isn’t about his addiction either.  He once said he envied a mentally challenged person because they didn’t have to act polite in accordance with societies norms.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]as an addict, i relate to House. i’ve watched that show too many times.[/quote]