Fox goes to Sweden

[EDIT] Ok, a video clip was supposed to be here but it didn't work. Sorry...

Anyone who knows how to put a video clip from your PC up here? It's a little over 3 MB.

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They had temporarily escaped the factories, the warehouses, the slaughterhouses, the car washes - they'd be back in captivity the next day but now they were out - they were wild with freedom. They weren't thinking about the slavery of poverty. Or the slavery of welfare and food stamps. The rest of us would be all right until the poor learned how to make atom bombs in their basements.

Bad link.

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I know... And for some reason it doesn't work on Fox News' page anymore either...

You can upload it to www.rapidshare.de and then post the link here.

Thanks!

Ok, here it is:


http://rapidshare.de/files/1500284/F...almo__.rm.html

If it wasn't impossible to take Fox News seriously before this....... Malmö is one quarter muslim?

Well, I don't have much perspective on Sweden, but judging from that clip it's being completely conquered by unwanted Muslims who are corrupting every facet of life there?

Mmm, more schlock and gore news from Fox. Be afraid...

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Yeah. It's true that Malmö, and Rosengård in particular (not Rosengrad as Fox calls the place on their website), is having problems because of not very good integration politics. But this segment is so distorted. It's really absurd. They say that a quarter of Malmö is muslim. The truth is that 25% of the Malmö population are immigrants - from all around the world, not just muslim countries. The biggest groups are coming from other nordic countries like Denmark and Finland. I even think that in those 25% also persons born in Sweden but with immigrant parents are included.

Another thing that I'm very skeptical about is when they said that 90% of the Malmö muslims are unemployed. My guess is that if the figure 90% fits anywhere, it is the percentage of unemployed immigrants in Rosengård, Malmö's biggest "problem area", not the muslims in particular. Also, while waiting for the Immigration Board to decide whether or not someone will get asylum in Sweden, one is not allowed to take a job.

Yeah, it really is frightening.

Changing the mood a bit i love sweden i cant wait to go over there!! i don't why but it just seems like a really great place to go....oh hang on i know why!! because of their liberalist beliefs!!

You mean our muslim beliefs!

When I first read your title Piddy, I thought you meant our Fox was going to Sweden…

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Maybe it's his left leg.

Hang on, we're talking about Ken Malmo here, aren't we?

I should just check out the link....

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I thought some more about the figure "one quarter muslim".

Malmö has about 250 000 inhabitants of which according to Fox over 60 000 are muslims. Then Fox goes on to say that 90% of the Malmö muslims are unemployed which in numbers means 54 000. Ok. Then that would mean that if using Fox's numbers and only counting the unemployed muslim inhabitants, Malmö would have an unemployment rate of 22-23%. Not likely... And there are roughly around 100 000 muslims in Sweden. If 60 000 muslims live in Malmö, then that doesn't leave many left for the rest of Sweden, including Stockholm and Gothenburg, the two largest cities in the country and, like Malmö, cities with many immigrants.

Fox, oh Fox... You naughty, naughty liars...

and why not? being born in an airplane over China doesn't make me Chinese.
and that so-called tolerant lefty political correctness i see everywhere is i can move to Japan, speak the language and practice kendo, i'll still be white all my life, id est: no Japanese.
now of course, everyone, and i, should have a right to move there or to the US without the f.uckin' green-card, but tis a right to choose where one lives, not a stupid negation of where people originally are from.

well, just a thought as reaction to that quote above.
doesn't mean Fox doesn't exaggerate things to make it spectacular... all medias are after money after all, we all know that.

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I really don't have a clue what you are talking about or what exactly in my quote you are reacting to. Fox News is referring to all people with non-swedish background as "muslims" which is what I am reacting against. The issue about who's swedish and who's not is another discussion which I have not touched yet. I presented a figure, 25%, and what swedish authorities perhaps based that figure on. I didn't mention whether or not I believe that calculation is misleading or unfair.

What Fox News is doing is a classic example of commercial journalism (because, contrary to what you believe, there are other types of journalism). They are using a very few frightening examples and letting them represent the whole picture, a picture which is impossible to present in a 2-minutes TV news segment. This is of course nothing that Fox News as broadcasters are exclusively responsible for of doing. However, the level of distortion (you call it "exaggeration", meaning "it's somewhat true - only exaggerated") is unacceptable for a major - correction: THE major - news broadcasting channel. But where Fox News is really crossing the line of what is okay is when they straight up lie. Because they are lying at least two times in this segment:

1) When they claim that 25% of the Malmö population is muslim,

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2) when they claim that 90% of the muslim immigrants in Malmö are unemployed.

There is absolutely no possible way of spinning those thrown out claims around that will turn them into facts. And I would really like to know why Fox News is bothering to send reporters all the way to Sweden, but not to check the facts they base their story on. Since the "facts" are so incredible it seems to me as Fox News has looked very hard for the facts being the most suitable for the story they want to tell, which has little in common with truth.

The segment was part of "Eurabia", a special 4-part series on Muslims in Europe (according to Fox News themselves). Eurabia? Fox News is trying to present a picture of Europe as being invaded by muslim hordes who are taking over entire societies and turning them into muslim societies while the "real" europeans are living in fear for their lives and properties. Why Fox News is doing this is we can of course only speculate about (even if speculating in this case is made very easy).

I started with saying that Fox News is an example of commercial journalism but it has often been argued that Fox News is also an example of political journalism, running errands for the Republican party. Whether this news segment is particularily supportive of conservative politics, I don't know, but it clearly demonize immigrants in general and muslims in particular. Being one part of a 4-part series called "Eurabia" leads me to believe this is part of a specific strategy by Fox News where objectivity is a bad thing and loyalty to a certain ideology is everything.

Who said something about "political correctness"?

I've haven't trusted anything Murdoch's lackeys have said since the Hillsborough disaster in '89.

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