Marvel's Fantastic Four

I agree on that, definitely. I just think that the best way to show their creations the respect they deserve is to make them relatable to today's audiences, which in many cases they might not be if they remained frozen in time and locked into the versions that existed in the 1960s or whatever.

Just as an example, it would be totally disrespectful if every female character that was adapted to the big screen was clad in bikinis or leotards or whatever they wore in the old comics, because it would look terribly sexist and they'd be accused of objectifying these women.

So obviously, there are many reasons why the old ways can't be adapted to the movies in the 2020s in the same ways that they existed in comic books in the 1960s.

I'm not opposed to updates where it makes sense.

Iron Man (2008) was a perfect example. It wouldn't have made much sense for Tony Stark to be captured by the Viet Cong as he was in his comic origin (unless you set the movie in the 60's). So having him captured by middle eastern terrorists didn't change the story, but made these antagonists topical to the time the movie was made.

In the same way, we can't have Reed & Ben (of the F.F.) referring to their serving in WWII anymore (like they did in comics from the 60's & 70's). If they exist in the modern era and served in WWII, they'd both be 100 years old. So of course updates are necessary if you are going to set stories in current times.

This one's silly, but in the Daredevil (2003) movie, they have him retire to a sensory deprivation tank after a long night of crime fighting. I have no idea if this concept ever appeared in comics or not, but it was a minor insight into a detail of his private life that made perfect sense! Of course a guy with heightened senses would want a break from all the sensory input, so a deprivation tank was logical, yet it in no way changed the character, only presented a very logical expansion based on what we knew his powers were.

That's the way I feel, too!

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The character of Shalla-Bal before and after becoming the female Silver Surfer. I'm all for bringing in new Marvel characters into the mix and from what I hear, the F4 team is NOT going through another origin story so that's good news. I have some hope for this and maybe, we'll see Galactus in his true form and not as a purple cloud of smoke...we don't need a Doctor Doom right now. Already been done 3 times...let's wait on him.

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If that's the case, then I'm not as much opposed to it.
I thought they were just changing Norrin Radd's gender for the sake of whatever.

I agree about Doom (although I'd say he's been bastardized 3 times). Although, the Roger Corman version probably captured his personality the best, if little else. The oughts' F.F. movies turned Doom into smarmy businessman with the powers of Colossus & Electro. And we won't even talk about what Fant4stic did to Doom!

Any chance they might make Galactus a girl?

John Malkovich as Willie Lumpkin!

Habemus Galactus

Natasha Lyonne has joined the cast

A black girl Sir!

What good would any film be if it wasn't set in an "alternate universe"? (Despite the fact that all fiction takes place in an alternate universe by definition.)

Maybe Mr. Fantastic can contact Ioan Grufford to see how Reed defeated Galactus in HIS universe. (Wouldn't that be neat? Or heck, do something different and get Miles Teller, Ioan Grufford and Alex Hyde-White to be a bushel of Reeds that come together to aid Reeds of other alternate universes - especially the gender, orientation and ethnically swapped ones!)

Roughly based on the words of Madonna: "With every new, bastardized superhero movie... I have thought an awful lot about blowing up Hollywood."

Yes but this one is a separate alternate universe from the one we've been watching so far

So far? So far we've had four (possibly five?) major motion picture F.F. franchises, none of which apparently take place in the same continuity... and none of which even take place within the MCU (when it was the F.F. who were the original progenitors of the Marvel Universe)!

Ah, yes, a splinter counter but concurrent alternate universe continuity copy utilizing one (pick one, any one) out of infinite versions of characters that were once unique, but now can exist in any form, color or creed, in any infinite number of realities.

Hey, here's a novel idea: just take one of Lee & Kirby's original stories (the ones that made these characters popular enough to have movies made about them in the first place) and just tell a decent story instead of all the alternate universe, demographic-appealing, multiple-counter-concurrent-counterparts, politically-correct-pandering, woke-appeasement B.S. that always seems to pull these films farther and farther away from the source material that made them worthy of having movies made about them.

I’m all for people who like a multiverse.

To me, it’s a real hedge for the studios and lazy. If you don’t like it, it doesn’t count. If you do, we can ______ and meow it’s part of the “real” universe. The one we convinced you to follow for all those years, because it was important and things mattered.

Not a comic book guy at all, but it’s a common downfall of these stories. The sprawl that makes everything so unwieldy.

I’ll go see it if it looks amazing, but a “multiverse” story takes the wind out of my sails.

Yknow, the direction everyone's opinion of MARVEL projects lately, I think audiences will embrace the idea of a different universe. A fresh start, like restarting a game you love from the beginning without all the mistakes you made on the previous playthrough to remind you. Marvel Comics itself has done it before, and gotten great results.
Plus the music will be better. At least it did in the first two GOTG films.

Madds Mikkelson would be perfect. Even from the same part of the world as Victor Von Doom.

Wait-wha-wha-WHAT?! Silver Surfer is a chick?! Silver Surfer is Ruth from Ozark??!! BWAHAHAHAHa!!!!! Well maybe Galactus will be a black chick