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01-10-21

I have not seen Once Upon a Time in the West but seen A Clockwork Orange. In all honesty, the movie was weird and silly but I didn't care for the film, I wouldn't even consider this movie a top 100 worthy, atleast not on my list

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edarsenal

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01-10-21

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules

That's just about my experience with Cuckoo's Nest too. I first seen it on TV in the mid 80s and thought Nurse Ratched was evil personified! A couple years ago I watched it for the second time, that's when I developed a whole new approach to the film and her character.

Now that you mention it, yes she was cute at the time of filming Cuckoo's Nest. Though they sure had her made up to look as uptight as possible.

On the DVD extras Louise Fletcher said that everyone on the set was having a great time being generally wild and spirited, but she felt she had to stay in character. So when the shooting was all done, she let loose and went topless on the set, which everyone cheered. Of course today she might be charged with sexual harassment. Just different times

I quite agree about her being attractive and that's a very cool story about her on set. Totally see that - especially after the acceptance speech that wrinklemind posted, she was trying to keep a straight face when she took Jack away at 2:18. Loved that!

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01-10-21

Originally Posted by John-Connor

Beautiful indeed, but back then it was always Jennifer for me.

Yes, Claudia Wells was so fine! I wish she had been in the next two films as much as I like Elisabeth Shue. Wells' mother was diagnosed cancer so she was unable to do the two following films, but she is still acting.

I liked A Clockwork Orange was an excellent movie and prime Kubrick. I've only seen it once a few years ago but need to revisit it.

Once Upon a Time in the West is a classic Western that I love. Great cast, Claudia Cardinale, great action, Claudia Cardinale, epic cinematography, Claudia Cardinale, grand score by Ennio Morricone, and of course, Claudia Cardinale! The scene at the train station at the beginning is one of my favorite set-pieces, with the great dialogue before the gunfight:
"Looks like we're shy one horse."
"You brought two too many." Brilliance!
Neither made my list. I have two Westerns on the list, and one has already showed, that being The Searchers and the other one most likely will not make it.

19. The Searchers #97
1. To Kill a Mockingbird #85
25. Die Hard #63
14. Rear Window #40
8. It's a Wonderful Life #38
2. Aliens #37
13. The Wizard of Oz #36

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01-10-21

A Clockwork Orange is in my top ten on my Mofo Profile page. It currently sits at #5. That list was made in...2005?

I will say this, it's no longer my favourite Kubrick film. As I've grown older I've viewed things differently and while this movie still rocked my socks, I can no longer say that it's in my top ten. I will be re-doing my own personal Top 100 this year and reassess what my list was 16 years ago. Still an amazing movie with an iconic lead performance in my mind.

Never seen Once upon A time, I hope to rectify that this year.

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01-10-21

Originally Posted by WrinkledMind

I have never seen this before and have to say, its one of the greatest acceptance speeches ever witnessed. Holy Schlankys!!!

Hey Fredrick

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01-10-21

Back to the Future is a movie I always love when I watch it but I rarely watch it and I don't know why. I have a review of it floating around here somewhere and basically what it says is Michael J. Fox is extremely likeable, Zemekis is an underrated director (all he does is make really good movies) and the movie is a just a lot of fun.

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is my fav movie of all time so it makes sense that I had it on my list at no.1. I can't find any faults in it. The acting across the board is outstanding. Every character is interesting; I can't think of anybody in it that isn't 100% believable. By the time it ends you feel like you lived with these characters. It's a movie that can have you laughing one minute and then has you questioning whether you should have been laughing at all in the next. The last 15 minutes is one hell of a rollercoaster ride of emotions and the final shot of the movie, for whatever reason, hits me hard every time I see it and all it is is a guy running away.

A Clockwork Orange I used to like a lot more than I do now

. I think once you start getting used to the goofiness of it all (by goofiness I guess I mean its style) it loses a little something. That first time you see it though it's like nothing else.

Once Upon a Time in the West is my favorite western, was no.1 for me on the western countdown, only problem is westerns aren't one of my favorite genres. Its

, no doubt and probably would make my top fifty. I mentioned earlier a little something about Grace Kelly in Rear Window, well Claudia Cardinale ain't too far behind.

My List:
1. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (#33)
5. The Exorcist (#47)
14. Amadeus (#50)
15. The Wizard of Oz (#36)
17. Rear Window (#40)
18. Gone With the Wind (#55)
19. Metropolis (#73)
20. Shindler's List (#41)
22. Sunset Boulevard (#53)
25. One Pointer - Planes, Trains and Automobiles

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01-11-21

I first saw A Clockwork Orange many years ago, and I hated it. I watched it again a few years ago, (I think for the 1970s countdown), and my opinion has not changed.

I didn't watch Once Upon a Time in the West for the Western Countdown because I didn't like any of the spaghetti westerns that I had already watched, but I decided to watch it for this countdown because it placed so high on the Westerns Countdown. It was probably the best of the spaghetti westerns that I watched, but it still wasn't good enough to make my list.

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01-11-21

Once Upon a Time in the West took me two watches to truly appreciate it, but once I clicked with it, I loved it. A movie very very deserving of being here, of course. Didn't vote for it though.

I didn't vote for A Clockwork Orange, but I might as well have... It's a great f*cking movie. I could have overclouded my list with Kubrick, but I chose to limit myself a little, so this one didn't end up on my list.

Here's what I wrote about it though in this giant ass review/analysis of the movie...

A Clockwork Orange write-up:

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Director's Dissection

Aaand I�m back with a vengeance and ready to dissect some Kubrick, which proves to be a truly tough act to perfect. This is also one of the reasons why I find this director dissection so difficult, simply because it is so daunting of a task to take on.

Don�t get me wrong, almost all the greats in cinema has endless amounts of elements you can pull from their films and study furiously. But none so far, for me, seems so frustrating as that of Kubrick. The man constantly confronts me with his cinema in ways that I find both off-putting and awe-inspiring. The former isn�t meant as something negative but more like something so grandiose that getting a grasp of everything means that you really have to commit� like, A LOT.

But I do like a challenge, so let me just cut down the Apple tree of Eden to the tones of satanic music blasting from my portable Bluetooth speaker, while I sit back with a juicy orange in one hand and a glass of whiskey in the other, writing in detail why exactly I got such a hard-on for the horribly excellent piece of cinema
famously called...
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A CLOCKWORK ORANGE

A Clockwork Orange is an odd and ominous oxymoron that combines the organic, sweet and colorful of the orange with the cold, mechanical and disciplined of the clockwork, creating a sweet and sour world within society

Stanley Kubrick confronts our inner animal, confuses our moral compass and condemns our cinematic soul with this surreal and extreme social commentary. A film that is almost too on the nose with its themes and structure, yet it smells like fresh grass and wicked herbs when in the firm grasp of someone like Kubrick � a man whose movies create quite the confusion for some and have more takes on them than he has with his camera. �A Clockwork Orange� is split into three distinctive acts, functioning almost as a traditional but surely twisted �three-act structure� taking place inside Kubrick�s very own fairy tale wasteland � a wonderland or simply a land of wonder � you be the judge of that.

We begin this cinematic journey, in what is one of my favorite openings to any movie ever, starting with a practically perverse use of extreme color (set to equally perverse and power-pandering music) and presented in a majestic and �mimicry masculine� manner � all of which are things this movie constantly explores throughout. �A Clockwork Orange� is indeed extreme, perverse and dominant but not merely within the superficial boundaries of the words. The words are thoroughly worked into the material of the movie, all the way from the characters to the story, its themes, the visuals and the sound design. For a movie starting out as a seemingly senseless piece of exploitation schlock cinema, it is impressive how it almost travels through the totality of human evolution and psychology from beginning to end, evoking thoughts and emotions that equally encapsulates every single element of the Freud psychoanalytic theories� for one.

ACT ONE
Alex DeLarge is very much a product of the world and society that Kubrick creates here, which is seemingly dominated by anarchy, chaos and primitive human drives � all of which relates to the �id�, which Alex is pretty much a personification of during the beginning of this movie. We see his obsession with violence, sex and perversion in several scenes of the film, often set to classical music as a comical and cruel contrast; and done in a way that seems even more extreme than that of �2001�. Like seen in one of the most extreme presentations of it, Alex is in his room listening to Ludwig van Beethoven, while we are shown the artistic painting of a naked girl in which the camera pans to her legs being spread but also being blocked by an �Eden-like� snake as the camera continues down, now revealing four crucified Jesuses below, which then evolves into a morbid montage of death and destruction and even more religious references; this time also in the satanic department. It is almost an over-stimulation of the �id� within Alex; the conscious preposterous provocation combined with a clear cinematic authority and irresponsibility within Kubrick; as well as my very own shameless and prideful pleasure in devouring such a high-calorie-loaded piece of luscious cinema, which feels so �out there� it should be locked away.

ACT TWO
I admit there is a sense of �nakedness� to the way Kubrick presents some the above, but in the case of the primal it makes complete sense. Things do get a tad more sophisticated as we move on, without losing the loose and unhinged attitude, which makes the movie work in my opinion... Once Alex gets locked up, we move into the �ego� part of Freuds theory, having the pleasure-department of our mind try to settle with a reality that presents us with some basic constraints. This evolves slowly but surely, once Alex is attempted �cured� from his basic human instincts and otherwise rightful free will, in which the �super-ego� steps in as the higher power, punishing socially improper behavior with emotional insertions that spurs reactions of both guilt and remorse. The extreme past behavior of Alex is now being replaced, not with comforting correction, but with complete constraints and cunning methods, which questions the very balance between social control and independency. Together with the first act, this creates a moral dilemma within us and even bigger demands to our perception of the people on both ends of the spectrum and the life we might be living ourselves, in the middle of it all.

ACT THREE
When Alex finally gets out, he isn�t merely a shadow of his past self as much as he is a projection of his newer self, created by the upper society. And he isn�t simply stripped from his past problematic behavior, he is stripped from every single behavior that makes one human. As the theory goes, no one man is purely good, nor can he be purely evil. The scales of good and evil may be heavy on either side, but if you take away one side completely the scale will break and the strength of the one side won�t have its contrast of the other side, which can otherwise enforce it. Once again, we are left to question or to judge what we just witnessed in the first two acts, and the wish of having some law and order be rolled out � how conscious or subconscious it might be � may now have to be ruled out completely. However you may respond to this, Alex is walking a path here, which doesn�t seem to be heading straight to heaven nor hell. It is indeed a middle ground that is kind of up to the audience and how they see the character of Alex DeLarge who, despite all, is not an easy person to like.

EPILOGUE
And when Alex is sitting in bed at the end, we are witnesses to the biggest whirlwind of rightfulness and wrongdoings, where we sort of celebrate the success of a convicted murderer, simply because he is also the triumph of free will in its very essence. So, while Alex has a fallback to the basic instincts of the �id�, this also creates a fallout with the failure of the Ludovico-experiment and thereby also the �super-ego�, showing us that the cure might be worse than the illness and that free choice and morality is a contradictive concoction.

Ultimately, I�m not sure if I somehow accept the extreme and perverse nature of this film because the thematic presentation and execution is so strong, or that I simply find pleasure in projections of �ultra-violence� when I let them speak to my inner �id�� because once, the clash of cinematic perversion was a peak I couldn�t always pass just for the power it held in connection to a given film and its admittedly strong themes� maybe it was a steppingstone I needed to stomp hard on a few times before being able to overcome it? Perhaps I have always had it in me? This perversion. Oh well, whatever restrictions I had in the past are gone and I guess you could end all this by saying that indeed, �I was cured alright��

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the samoan lawyer

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01-11-21

Both great movies and both deserve a place on this list. OUATITW is tied with 3:10 to Yuma (original) for my favourite western but I didnt vote for it. A Clockwork Orange is uncompromisingly brilliant and was my gateway into Kubrick.

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Sedai

A system of cells interlinked

01-11-21

I will guess The Matrix and The Breakfast Club.

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01-11-21

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30. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

Director

Irvin Kershner, 1980

Starring

Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Billy Dee Williams

Favorited by 115 MoFos

Reviewed by 11 MoFos

⇓ 23rd

01-11-21

160 points
12 lists

29. Se7en

Director

David Fincher, 1995

Starring

Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kevin Spacey

Favorited by 77 MoFos

Reviewed by five MoFos

⇓ 24th

Yoda

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01-11-21

Some teachers are tough
Both strict and restrictive

Both

Tell you to move mountains

Or act downright vindictive

Pretty much all of Se7en.

But numbers and koans

Numbers = seven deadly sins. A koan is a Zen Buddhist saying.

It has to be said
Can't be forced or coerced

Forced for one film, coerced for the other.

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Iroquois

Welcome to the human race...

01-11-21

Another couple of films that I have placed on both my top 100s but not actually voted for. Empire would still be my pick for favourite Star Wars (for whatever that's worth these days), but I definitely feel like I need to revisit Se7en to see how it holds up. I rewatched Fight Club for the first time in ages the other day and, while it's still good, I wouldn't put it in my own top 100 - I feel like a similar thing will happen if I ever get around to giving Se7en another go.

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Msg

Registered User

01-11-21

I've seen both movies, I liked Empire Strikes Back, thought Se7en was a decent movie, I wouldn't consider it as a favorite though

gandalf26

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01-11-21

Matrix seemed like a given, you've fooled loads this time.

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Sedai

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01-11-21

Originally Posted by gandalf26

Matrix seemed like a given, you've fooled loads this time.

A lot of people on this site think it is overrated. though, including myself.

Thief

Master of None

01-11-21

Nice! One from my list and one that was close...

I had Empire Strikes Back at #26. Put it a couple of notches above the original, but they're mostly interchangeable for me in how much I love both. From the AT-AT battle in Hoth to the confrontation at the Cloud City, it's just great, not much else to say.

Seven was my #2, and has been my #2 of all-time for quite awhile. It just came at a moment when I was getting more seriously into cinema and it just floored me. I remember we had a movie night with a bunch of friends, someone rented it (I don't remember if it was me), but the thing is that this bunch of 10-15 people were all just glued to it. The last act remains as one of my favorite, and that ending? Ooof, one of the best I've seen. I've rewatched that film dozens of times and it never fails to impress me, so I'm happy it showed up here.

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01-11-21

My Summary:

Seen: 63/72
My list: 9/25

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