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Forgive me if this has been done before. List your favorite tearjerkers in no particular order.

- Tears of Endearment
- On Golden Pond
- The English Patient
- Dead Poet's Society
- The Notebook
- The Joy Luck Club
- Ordinary People
- Beaches
- Atonement
- Past Lives
- Steel Magnolias
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Hachi: A Dog's Tale (2009)
The Fault in Our Stars (2014)
Midnight Sun (2018)
The Champ (1979)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
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The Yearling (1946)
Old Yeller (1957)

I've avoided watching both of these movies because I've heard that they are very hard to watch.
WARNING: "SPOILERS about the ENDINGS of "Old Yeller" and "The Yearling"!!!" spoilers below
(And yes, I've heard about the endings of both movies.)



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The Way We Were
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I just finished Ikiru.

It broke me.

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It's heartbreaking on the intellectual level but it doesn't quite work on the emotional level. I loved it on a rewatch (I disliked it the first time) but it sure isn't Kurosawa at his moving best.



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It's heartbreaking on the intellectual level but it doesn't quite work on the emotional level. I loved it on a rewatch (I disliked it the first time) but it sure isn't Kurosawa at his moving best.
I felt It worked on both levels.
I’m not sure if it’s his best, but it might be up there for me.



I’m not sure if it’s his best, but it might be up there for me.
Nah, he has many better films. It's still amazing, tho.



It might be better than Red Beard in my opinion
Yeah, no. Even audiovisually, Red Beard is vastly superior. Not to mention the humanist approach that is much more powerful in Red Beard.



The trick is not minding
Yeah, no. Even audiovisually, Red Beard is vastly superior. Not to mention the humanist approach that is much more powerful in Red Beard.
I felt Ikiru was filmed decently, but Red Beard may have looked better due to being filmed much later in his career. Ikiru, visually, seemed to have to be more memorable, particularly with certain scenes. And I definitely felt its humanist approach was better as well.*
Both are great, but I’d give the edge to Ikiru.*



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I felt Ikiru was filmed decently, but Red Beard may have looked better due to being filmed much later in his career.
Ikiru is filmed very well, too. The nightclub shots in particular are breathtaking and indeed memorable. Kurosawa knows how to utilize the Academy Ratio in Ikiru. The blocking and CinemaScope visual composition in Red Beard is two levels higher when it comes to virtuosity, though. The well scene, for example, is literally film magic. People are still debating how it was shot.



And I definitely felt its humanist approach was better as well.
It's great in Ikiru but I only get it on the intellectual level, which I hate in melodramas. However, in the case of Ikiru this might paradoxically be an advantage, i.e. nobody cares about / sheds a tear for this old man, not EVEN the viewer.

Anyway, Red Beard is heartbreaking both intellectually and emotionally. If the bowl scene didn't shatter you, you're as good as heartless to me.

Red Beard is one of the few great cinematic humanist manifestos and one of the films that I give people to watch and if they don't get it or aren't moved by it, etc., I know they're very different people from me.




The trick is not minding
Ikiru is filmed very well, too. The nightclub shots in particular are breathtaking and indeed memorable. Kurosawa knows how to utilize the Academy Ratio in Ikiru. The blocking and CinemaScope visual composition in Red Beard is two levels higher when it comes to virtuosity, though. The well scene, for example, is literally film magic. People are still debating how it was shot.



It's great in Ikiru but I only get it on the intellectual level, which I hate in melodramas. However, in the case of Ikiru this might paradoxically be an advantage, i.e. nobody cares about / sheds a tear for this old man, not EVEN the viewer.

Anyway, Red Beard is heartbreaking both intellectually and emotionally. If the bowl scene didn't shatter you, you're as good as heartless to me.

Red Beard is one of the few great cinematic humanist manifestos and one of the films that I give people to watch and if they don't get it or aren't moved by it, etc., I know they're very different people from me.

Idk. I found myself caring for the old man. If you’re not moved by the final scene of him on a swing, I could make the same argument, but that would be making assumptions about one being heartless. Let’s avoid that.

Red Beard is a great film, and I’m not debating it isn’t. It just didn’t hit me the same way Ikiru did, emotionally.



If you’re not moved by the final scene of him on a swing, I could make the same argument, but that would be making assumptions about one being heartless. Let’s avoid that.
The swing scene is poignant, yet the final scene, where we observe the playground from a distance with children playing, is even more moving. Although Kanji’s colleagues failed to implement the changes they seemed convinced to make within their bureaucratic confines, Kanji’s actions were not in vain and did effect change. This, needless to say, raises questions about the significance and scale of that change.

While intellectually stimulating and emotionally resonant, I believe melodramas should fundamentally devastate the viewer on a visceral level, preventing higher-level engagement in the moment.

Consider Sansho the Bailiff. Despite its depth, the film overwhelms you emotionally, making it difficult to think because you are consumed by tears. The lake scene in Sansho is more powerful and poignant than the swing scene in Ikiru, partly because it stands on its own. Knowing the context enhances it, but it remains one of cinema’s greatest scenes regardless. The final scene is equally exceptional. In contrast, Ikiru is more consistent, with each scene building on the previous ones. It exemplifies narrative cinema, focusing so intently on storytelling that it doesn’t excel in non-narrative elements. It doesn’t engage the subconscious as profoundly as many masterpieces do. In other words, there's nothing irrationally good in Ikiru.

Here's an interesting exercise: Consider whether a film can move you without subtitles. If it can’t, the story is likely the primary source of its emotional impact. The best melodramas should move you even if you don't understand the story. You should grasp enough to be moved, maybe it's someone’s death, maybe it's the beauty of the framing, the evocative music or silence, or maybe it's the actors within the space of the frame.

What moves us is subjective, but we can strive to understand how we are moved. It’s often challenging to pinpoint the exact elements, as they usually work in tandem, but this difficulty shouldn’t deter us from trying.

Ikiru is humane mostly in its narrative. Red Beard is humane both cinematically and narratively.