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I watched Kids today, and I can definitely see the roots of where he would subsequently go in his own directorial efforts (specifically groups of people encouraging/pressuring one or more members to engage in some form of unsafe or anti-social activity). After watching it, though, I felt like something was missing in comparison to works like Gummo or Trash Humpers. I think those films had an almost whimsical quality to them that came out of the combination of their general weirdness and shared embrace of tap dancing/vaudeville, whereas Kids seemed more consistently realistic and almost documentary (apart from the score).

Korrine didn't direct Kids, just wrote the script, which is why you don't get the weird mishmash of images and music and weirdness. Larry Clark was a much more grounded filmmaker. And also a seemingly grosser human being. For all the flack some people give Korrine for peddling exploitation, Korrine's love of outcasts and misfits makes it so they are almost always treated with empathy. Clark on the other hand, leers at his teenage cast members in a way that often feels as if it is objectifying them.


It's probably one element of what kept me from appreciating Kids for so long (and I've subsequently grown to like most of his movies, no matter how icky they end up making me feel)



Korrine didn't direct Kids, just wrote the script, which is why you don't get the weird mishmash of images and music and weirdness. Larry Clark was a much more grounded filmmaker. And also a seemingly grosser human being. For all the flack some people give Korrine for peddling exploitation, Korrine's love of outcasts and misfits makes it so they are almost always treated with empathy. Clark on the other hand, leers at his teenage cast members in a way that often feels as if it is objectifying them.


It's probably one element of what kept me from appreciating Kids for so long (and I've subsequently grown to like most of his movies, no matter how icky they end up making me feel)
I know that he was the only writer, but, as some others have said above, I think, his creativity made a huge mark on the film---and the foundations laid out in it come up again later in other work. I just watched it to get a better sense of his beginnings.



Larry Clark is definitely more rooted in some form of realism than Korine proper too---it felt like he almost wanted a documentary, which could be construed as being at odds with the humor in Korine's script.



So I saw Aggro Dr1ft last night, and I liked it quite a bit. It was visually interesting, but most of all quite funny. He really lived up to the "edglrd" moniker by delivering a movie that managed to take itself seriously to the point of humor---while avoiding the annoying irony/self-awareness that seems to typify so many "so bad they are good" films.



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So I saw Aggro Dr1ft last night, and I liked it quite a bit. It was visually interesting, but most of all quite funny. He really lived up to the "edglrd" moniker by delivering a movie that managed to take itself seriously to the point of humor---while avoiding the annoying irony/self-awareness that seems to typify so many "so bad they are good" films.
Were you able to see it in theaters? I’ve heard it looks really good, with the way it was filmed and all.
Sadly, the closest theater for me that it is apparently showing is the Charles Theater in Baltimore.



Sadly, the closest theater for me that it is apparently showing is the Charles Theater in Baltimore.
Is that a long drive for you?

The distribution pattern for this one seems downright bizarre, even for a sort-of arthouse film. I can't make heads or tails of it.



The trick is not minding
Is that a long drive for you?

The distribution pattern for this one seems downright bizarre, even for a sort-of arthouse film. I can't make heads or tails of it.
Close to an hour, yeah. It’s a shame because, while I’m not big fan of Korine, his films are at least interesting to watch.



Were you able to see it in theaters? I’ve heard it looks really good, with the way it was filmed and all.
Sadly, the closest theater for me that it is apparently showing is the Charles Theater in Baltimore.
Yes, I did see it in a theater. What I can say is that it is definitely meant for theater viewing, as it's more of a visual spectacle than a story or anything else. Actually, it's probably best viewed as Korine intended---projected onto the walls of a strip club.

What surprised me visually was that in addition to the infrared camera, many scenes were also overlayed with AI biomechanical animations. There were also a few fully CGI inclusions, like the large demon monsters that sometimes appeared in the background.

I certaintly enjoyed it more than The Beach Bum.



Close to an hour, yeah. It’s a shame because, while I’m not big fan of Korine, his films are at least interesting to watch.
My drive was a bit longer than that. If you want an experience, it's worth being tired the next day!



Spring Breakers was... something. I am sure about only liking James Franco's batshit performance in it. He didn't direct Kids but I saw it some months ago in a small theater and it was a positively disturbing experience.

May checkout Gummo and Trash Humpers one day...but I'm in no rush as you can say.



Gummo is the only one I recall seeing and I'm good with that.

Edit: I have seen Julian Donkey-boy

I have Kids on dvd but haven't watched it. One friend wanted to see it and another friend picked it up in a pawn shop for $3. They were not friends but friends with me. I was the go between.

The only thing it cost me was to fix my friend's daughter's sweater because I crochet.



Spring Breakers was... something. I am sure about only liking James Franco's batshit performance in it. He didn't direct Kids but I saw it some months ago in a small theater and it was a positively disturbing experience.

May checkout Gummo and Trash Humpers one day...but I'm in no rush as you can say.
You should rush to see both of them. Very unique, one might say...



Gummo is the only one I recall seeing and I'm good with that.

Edit: I have seen Julian Donkey-boy

I have Kids on dvd but haven't watched it. One friend wanted to see it and another friend picked it up in a pawn shop for $3. They were not friends but friends with me. I was the go between.

The only thing it cost me was to fix my friend's daughter's sweater because I crochet.
I'm not quite sure why Kids seems to have such a cult following surrounding it. It's obviously a shocking movie, so that could do it, but it feels much more mundane in comparison to the other movies you have seen by Korine.



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Gummo is a masterpiece, I can't recommend it enough for everyone. This song sometimes plays in my head




I'm not quite sure why Kids seems to have such a cult following surrounding it. It's obviously a shocking movie, so that could do it, but it feels much more mundane in comparison to the other movies you have seen by Korine.
You said yourself it’s a shocking movie. Especially the finale. So there you go. Excellent movie.
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Fair enough, and I could only assume as much.
I have a copy of Kids. I got it from one friend for another friend to watch.

I guess I should watch it.

I have Gummo on dvd. That movie is f*ked up.



I have a copy of Kids. I got it from one friend for another friend to watch.

I guess I should watch it.

I have Gummo on dvd. That movie is f*ked up.
I think you’ll like it. Seen it quite a few times.