The MoFo Top 100 Musicals Countdown

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Couple of interesting facts...

Fiddler on the Roof is Norman Jewison's second entry in the countdown. He had already placed Jesus Christ Superstar at #59.

Also, A Hard Day's Night tied for second place with the highest IMDb score of the countdown so far at 8. The other one with 8 was Pink Floyd - The Wall, while Amadeus still remains on top with 8.4.

The point gap of 26 votes between these two entries is, by far, the biggest from the countdown. So far, most entries had been either tied or with a handful of points between. There were a couple that were separated by 6 or 8 points, but 26 is quite a big gap.
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I have been out of town for a week, so to catch up with which titles have made previous MoFo Lists...



Fantasia and Pinocchio were both on the MoFo Top 100 Animated Films, at #20 and #23, as well as the MoFo Top 100 of the 1940s, at #20 and #24. South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut also made the MoFo Animated Films list at #25, as well as the MoFo Top 100 of the 1990s at #99. Both Meet Me in St. Louis and Yankee Doodle Dandy were on the MoFo 1940s list at #48 and #42, respectively. The Music Man was #83 on the MoFo Top 100 of the 1960s. And finally, Moulin Rouge! placed at #92 on the original MoFo Top 100 back in 2010, though interestingly made neither the Millennium nor 2000s lists.
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Have seen Pinocchio but not Fiddler on the Roof or Once. A Hard Day's Night was my #1 pick overall.



It's been a while.

#33 - Meet Me In St. Louis (1944)
#32 - Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942)
- Movies I saw when I was very young and don't remember much about, other than I think I enjoyed them when I was really young, but I can't say I have any great interest in revisiting them (a common theme I've been saying).

#31 - That Thing You Do! (1996) - I forgot this movie exists. Not in a literal sense, but it just kind of vacated my mind as a mid-90s movie I enjoyed as a teen, but don't really have any strong desire to rewatch. Not good, not bad, it just "is".

#30 - Moulin Rouge! (2001) - I just disliked the look and vibe of this movie in its trailers when it came out and have never watched it.

#29 - The Music Man (1962) - I'd say the same thing as #33 and #32, but it with the caveat that it did give us The Simpson's Monorail episode (from when The Simpson's still existed) and is about a con-man as its protagonist. So it does have that going for it.

#28 - Labyrinth (1986) - I could say, "movie I saw when I was fairly young and really enjoyed it," but... I would rewatch. I actually probably would have included it on my ballot if it had crossed my mind. I also remember a number of scenes. I prefer The Dark Crystal, but that isn't a musical.

#27 - South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut (1999) - I actually never saw this. The first season happened when I entered college. It was quite the rage. By the time the movie came out, my interest had kind of waned. And friends said it felt like a long episode. If someone showed it

#26 - Pinocchio (1940) - Okay, out of the Disney movies I didn't consider, I probably should have considered this one. My memory of it isn't the greatest, but outside of Alice in Wonderland, it's probably the classic Disney that I probably should have considered that I didn't. Maybe my memory is exaggerating a few scenes though.

#25 - Once (2007) - My number 15 of 18 on my ballot. Position probably hurt because I haven't rewatched it since it came out to much fanfare. It was really big in the film podcasts I listened to. It was my first introduction to a diegetic musical and my thoughts were, "yes, I want more of these and less of ones that rely so much on dancing performances." I also remember the fundamental structure of the love story feeling realistically tragic. I regret not rewatching for the countdown nor getting to Sing Street for the countdown.

#24 - Fiddler On the Roof (1971) - Never seen. Never really had a strong desire to.

#23 - A Hard Day's Night (1964) - Never seen. Never really had a strong desire to, though, it is Richard Lester and I suspect I will some day while looking through the Sight & Sound all time list (I think it's somewhere in the top 250). So there's at least some desire there.



I have had this reply ready all day today just waiting on today’s reveal!

Because something in me just knew that there wasn’t gonna be any doubt about the fact that both of the reveals today would be two movies I simply haven’t seen! Amazing. Just amazing.



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Glad and pleased to see Fiddler on the Roof made it on the list and at a fairly respectable showing in the top 25 with 11... or was it 12 ballots for it cast? I had Fiddler on the Roof at number 12. I love the historical context of the film being set in the early 1900's in Russia showing a family of Russia Jews, all centered around the hapless and poverty-stricken father, Tevye, who does his best to balanced the impending doom of the Russian Revolution, the growing anti-Semitism, and the personal issues of squabbles with his neighbors - primarily the butcher Lazar Wolf and trying to marry off his handful of daughters when he cannot afford any dowry to go along with them to any potential suitor. The actor who plays Tevye is named Chaim Topol, who I believe played the role on stage and according to wikipedia he served in the Israeli Army.

The thing that makes this movie so great is the genuine performance from Chaim Topol and how he realistically portrays someone in both an emotional, intellectual, and spiritual crisis of balancing tradition... TRADITION! with a changing world. There's so much great stuff here and how he debates with himself in weighing the benefits vs the harms of sticking to the old ways vs having an open mind and not be a stick in the mud to the new ones, is some of the most rich and dynamic thematic elements you will ever see in any musical, period. The supporting cast is wonderful too and do their job, but Fiddler on the Roof is a one man show if there every was one.

Also in terms of pacing it is so well done. How the film handles the macro of a changing world and social values, the impending revolution, and how the Jewish people are constantly being pushed away no matter where they settle v.s. the micro day-to-day of the struggles of a man who isn't a rich man is so perfectly executed. You know, the small vs the large dramas of simply existing. Those on the day-to-day in the minutiae of life vs the inescapable fact of belonging to a society at large and the insanity that goes with it. Few films or stories have struck that balance so well as does Fiddler on the Roof.

Finally, the look of the film is very distinctive in its drab grey, brown, and muted blues color palate, which perfectly complements the dour world the characters inhabit.

Fiddler on the Roof would make a great double bill with An American Tail... a musical that almost made my list and happily made the MoFo top 100 musical list as an earlier entry. Moreover, Fiddler on the Roof would make an amazing "I have absolutely nothing to do and no where to go triple bill with An American Tail and The Taming of the the Shrew (the Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor version).

I watched Fiddler for the first time back in March and then immediately re-watched parts of it. It was streaming on Amazon, but not sure if it is now or not. I have no idea, NO IDEA why it took me so long to watch it because it's an instant favorite of mine and so incredibly easy to get absorbed into.

GRADE: A+

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Also in honor of the musical Fiddler on the Roof, I made a promise back in March that if a certain thing happened in the first week of November 2024 I would go on top of our roof and fiddle. If a certain other thing happened in the first week of November 2024, I said that I would do the same, except only I would be "violin-ing on the roof."

So as not to break any MoFo rules, I won't say whether these are pictures me fiddling on the roof or violin-ing on the roof. I also did my best to edit out any questionable words too that might have been in the picture.

But yeah, I liked the musical so much, it inspired me to try it. Also for the record, I have no clue at all how to fiddler or play any single instrument... so I truly felt bad for the neighbors. Only one person really noticed me that said anything and they were laughing about it.





OOF Fiddler on the Roof is LONG. A lot of amazing songs and a great story, but way too long. That kept it out of my list, but it would've made top 50.


I don't consider A Hard Days Night to be a musical. They go places and perform music numbers, but they're disconnected from the plot. That aside, i think it's the weakest of the Beatles movies. Just my opinion. Yellow Submarine is my Beatles Musical of choice.



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Getting into the good stuff now - a double ballot strike for the first time during this countdown for me :

24. Fiddler on the Roof (1971) - I've only seen this once, but wow - knocked my socks off. I think I have a review to quote from on Letterboxd... "1971 was a great year for films, with A Clockwork Orange, The Last Picture Show, The French Connection, Nicholas and Alexandra and Fiddler on the Roof all vying for Best Picture at the Oscars. A rare year where I actually like every nomination a great deal. It took until now to confirm my feelings for Fiddler on the Roof however - a 3 hour musical that I have to admit breaking into two portions. Topol is marvelous as Tevye, the put-upon father of five willful daughters who will test just how willing he is to break with age-old Jewish traditions. I remember getting to know this guy from when he appeared in Flash Gordon and For Your Eyes Only in the 1980s - and sadly, he died only a few weeks ago at the age of 87. He's obviously most famous for appearing in this film, and provides it with it's heart and soul. It's hard to fathom that the young girls in this are now old ladies.

There's something magical about Fiddler on the Roof - almost as if something sacred has been woven into the fabric of the film, and it gives us a glimpse into the world of a Jewish community that, while persecuted, had remained unchanged for centuries until modernity came to disrupt their way of life. The music has a certain timeless quality, and that's why I rate it above the likes of An American in Paris, Easter Parade and High Society, which seem trivial in comparison. The fierce anti-Semitism and growing instability inside Russia creates an upheaval which sets the stage for the struggle these people go through, and makes this specific musical feel important and gives it a weighty depth. The fiddler on the roof represents the precarious balancing act of living life while still playing your personal tune and making decisions - hopefully without falling." Yep. That'll pretty much do it as far as my thoughts are concerned. I had it at #11.

23. A Hard Day's Night (1964) - I went through a phase discovering the entire Beatles catalogue, which is an easy phase to fall into considering how great their music is. I learned how to play guitar mostly via Beatles songs, and I still have various books lying about which inform me which chords to play and such - but it's been a long, long time since I held a Fender in my hands. I was terrible by the way. Anyway, of course this film has the music, but it also brings the charm and comedy by the bucket-load because these four guys were natural comedians and belonged up on that screen as far as farcical shenanigans are concerned. Is Help! going to make it? So hard to tell, but I thought that was considered the inferior one so perhaps not. You would have expected this to be a soulless cash-in on the success of the band, but it ended up being a brilliantly devised and admired film in it's own right - cool. I had it at #15

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Seen : 50/78
I'd never even heard of : 11/78
Movies that had been on my radar, but I haven't seen yet : 17/78
Films from my list : 12

#23 - My #15 - A Hard Day's Night (1964)
#24 - My #11 - Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
#28 - My #7 - Labyrinth (1986)
#37 - My #1 - Phantom of the Paradise (1974)
#41 - My #6 - Pink Floyd - The Wall (1982)
#44 - My #13 - Oliver! (1968)
#47 - My #14 - Hair (1979)
#59 - My #5 - Jesus Christ Superstar (1973)
#60 - My #23 - Annie (1982)
#72 - My #22 - Yellow Submarine (1968)
#92 - My #8 - Tommy (1975)
One-pointer - My #25 - Shock Treatment (1981)
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As I have been out of town for a week I am way behind on reveals from my list. Out of the last eighteen, four more of my choices made the cut. I did have one of today’s pair…


A Hard Day’s Night is some kinda perfect. As popular as The Beatles already were when they set out to make their debut and as even more impossibly famous as they were about to become, they could have tossed off just about anything for the cinema and it would have made plenty of cash in 1964. Happily the taste of the Fab Four and their management reached for something more. Being fans of ”The Goon Show” they opted for something that was more akin to the anarchic, cheeky fun of The Marx Brothers than trying to appear cool or romantic. John, Paul, George and Ringo wandering about London ahead of a television performance is all the plot needed, though they threw in Paul’s fictional nefarious mixer of a grandad (Wilfrid Brambell) for good measure, all guided by the hand of Richard Lester (The Three Musketeers, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum). Oh, and there are some songs. Beatles songs.

It was fifth on my ballot, good for twenty-one of its 170 points.



Tom Hanks’ directorial debut, That Thing You Do!, is set during 1964, the year of A Hard Day’s Night, following a fictional garage band that almost accidentally cuts a hit record and finds themselves quickly thrown into the fringes of the system, only to collapse under the weight of their one hit. One-Hit Wonders, or at least One-Hit One-ders, would have been an apt, punny title. But the title of that catchy single is even better. That song, written by Fountain of Waynes’ Adam Schlesinger, is rather brilliant. It had to sound of the period - which it does - had to be catchy enough to be believable as a hit record – totes – and had to be good enough that you wouldn’t tire of hearing it a dozen times during the film – I never do. The details are all fantastic, the sense of humor and hope are charming and tangible, and it is perfectly cast, especially Tom Everett Scott and Steve Zahn. Even before I was in bands myself, I knew this was authentic stuff. After being in bands I can attest it is almost documentary-like in capturing the dynamic and egos of any and, really, every band.

One of the most effortlessly entertaining, endlessly quotable, and compellingly rewatchable movies I have come across, That Thing You Do! was seventh on my ballot, accounting for nineteen of its 123 points.



Another fictional band, this one set in 1980s Dublin, highlights John Carney’s Sing Street. In addition to being a movie about a garage band coming together it also uses another favorite genre of mine, the coming-of-age school tale. Ferdia Walsh-Peelo is just right as the shy, sensitive boy overwhelmed when changes in the family finances throw him into a tougher school run by the Christian Brothers. While dodging bullies and trying to adapt to the new strict rules he develops a mighty crush on a slightly older neighborhood girl, Raphina (Lucy Boynton). On the spot to impress her he awkwardly blurts out that he has a band and would love to use her as a model in a video. When she agrees he must quickly will it all into existence, both put a band together with classmates and somehow write a song. With some guidance from his older brother (Jack Reynor) and a bit of luck, he just may pull it off. Lovely film. It was my fifteenth choice, eleven of its 94 points.



I also had John Carney’s Once on my list. Before he set his sights on filmmaking, Carney played bass in the Dublin rock band The Frames, founded by Glen Hansard (The Commitments). After directing a few of their music videos Carney left the band to make films. After some small indies got him some notice his third feature, On the Edge, was financed by Universal and starred Cillian Murphy. But he truly broke through with Once. A simple and affecting tale of a Dublin busker, Glen Hansard playing essentially a cinematic funhouse version if himself had he never succeeded, and a Czechoslovakian immigrant, Markéta Irglová, who briefly enter each other’s lives thanks to music. Like That Thing You Do!, its central song, “Falling Slowly”, is perfect enough to hear again and again in the feature and love every time. That moment in the music store that it becomes a duet gives me goosebumps every single time I watch it.

Carney makes lovely films about musicians. Once (#25), Sing Street (#40), and Begin Again (#89) all made the countdown, and frankly Flora + Son is good enough to have joined them. I limited myself and made room for just two of them on my ballot. I had Once at eighteen.


That makes eleven of my choices as we come knocking on the Top 20. Of my remaining fourteen I expect seven of them are locks, two or three more have a slight shot of still showing, and the others have no chance.

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
3. Pennies from Heaven (#56)
5. A Hard Day’s Night (#23)
7. That Thing You Do! (#31)
11. This is Spın̈al Tap (#55)
13. A Star is Born (#43)
14. Hair (#47)
15. Sing Street (#40)
17. Amadeus (#97)
18. Once (#25)
21. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (#69)
25. Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (#74)



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Fiddler was my 4. Watched it for the first time at some point last year. Probably just a couple months before we voted on the list. Another one I didn’t really expect to like, but sometimes the music and s performance hit you just right. This one certainly did for me.

Despite loving The Beatles music, I have found their movies dreadful.
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Yep, here's two more of mine. I think Fiddler on the Roof wavers a bit in the second half, but it was still strong enough to be my #15. Still think it's wild that Topol pulled off this role in his mid-30s.

A Hard Day's Night is just pure anarchic fun, plus Beatles music! What's not to like? It was my #7.



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I don't have a good answer for that, other than I never got to see it until it was on TV in the 90s, and it never completely took. It didn't not take. Never went to a midnight showing, which probably alters one's relationship with it. I came to Phantom of the Paradise much later and it was a much less culturally ubiquitous movie (I've also got some really positive associations with the first viewing experience), it's also probably got some underdog, cultural find energy going on in my mind.
FWIW, having seen it at least 40 times, I vastly prefer Rocky Horror without the audience interrupting it, even once.



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Fiddler On The Roof was No.22 for me.
Probably too low but that's where it landed.



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The point gap of 26 votes between these two entries is, by far, the biggest from the countdown. So far, most entries had been either tied or with a handful of points between. There were a couple that were separated by 6 or 8 points, but 26 is quite a big gap.
A huge gap, but the gaps are going to get smaller again before they get really, really big.

Despite loving The Beatles music, I have found their movies dreadful.
Agreed

The Court Jester and Aladdin (1992).
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Aladdin
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Ron Clements, 1992

Starring

Scott Weinger, Robin Williams, Linda Larkin, Jonathan Freeman