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I'm not a fan of slasher movies either, but they've been around a long time, starting with Halloween.

Overall, movies probably have less sex and violence than in the past because the major studios like to aim for a PG 13 rating for their big productions, and that wasn't always their concern.



films should be true representations of the ideas that they try to portray, sometimes harmful subject matter must be used to tell the story



I'm not a fan of slasher films either... all the blood and gore jogs way too many memories that I'd just as soon do without... and all the violence toward females has bothered me for a while...

As for the profanity... I'm pretty used to hearing just about everything around here... but, in all honesty, I'm pretty fed up with a lot of it... in films and in real life. Anyone who can't express themselves with out using the F word every other word sounds pretty ridiculous to me... and not tough at all.

As for the nudity... I'm pretty used to seeing all of that too... but have always been of the opinion that leaving something to the imagination is much sexier than baring it all...
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films should be true representations of the ideas that they try to portray, sometimes harmful subject matter must be used to tell the story
Which supports my proposal to use real ammo in the shootout scenes--Man, that would truly represent what the director wants to portray, even if it may be a little harmful to the cast. Mighe even improve the director's if some random shots were aimed in his direction--I understand that serves to focus one's mind to a high degree.



Overall, movies probably have less sex and violence than in the past because the major studios like to aim for a PG 13 rating for their big productions, and that wasn't always their concern.
Maybe I haven't seen enough PG 13 films because it seems to me that there is more violence and at least nudity, if not sex, in movies today. One comparision of violence is the film 3:10 to Yuma as originally made in the '50s and the recent remake. The original was less violent and more talky--a lot of the film centered on the drama between the outlaw and his captor in that hotel room. There were only 4-5 killings in the original and none of the trauma between father and son. In the remake, however, I couldn't keep count of all the killings--outlaws, Indians, the sheriff, deputies, townspeople, the captor, all of the head outlaw's gang. the remake killed more people than the plague!

Another example, Scarface: In the original, the first killing occurs unseen offscreen, all we see is the killer's shadow on the wall. In the remake, the screen is filled with dead bodies.



I don't have a problem with any of these things in movies. And as for all the talk I hear sometimes about violent movies and TV causing people to become violent, I don't buy that for a second. People that do violent things already have something wrong going on in their heads. As Billy Loomis says in Scream, "movies don't create psychos, movies make psychos more creative".



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After World War II, juvenile delinquency shot up, so this psychiatrist or something, Dr, Wertheim, said it was because of comic books because he spoke to these bad kids and they read comic books. So they got rid of the violent comic books and the juvenile delinquency rate still kept going up.



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Violence
I really couldn't care less about violence. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Depending, a lot of times violence can drive the plot (as in a murder mystery) or stimulate some excitement (gotta love explosions to out run). Sometimes I think they could tone it down some in movies for kids, but really it's up to the parents what the child sees.

Nudity
This is one thing I really think they could cut out. I don't really see its purpose. If you wanna see naked people, go watch a pornography. So then people who just want to see the action/excitement or enjoy the dialouge can just watch the movie without having to see what they might find unpleasant or awkward. I just have no interest in seeing private body parts of people that I haven't even met. *shrug*

Cursing
Let's be honest, if you're disarming a bomb with ten seconds to go and you cut the wrong wire, you won't feel like yelling, "Rats!" Foul language in movies isn't added in to offend anyone, but if it bothers you stick to television versions. True, like nudity, it isn't necessary, but it's nothing that you won't hear in a middle or high school hallway these days.
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I really couldn't care less about violence. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Mostly, I agree. I'm not a fan of extreme violence and gore at all, so I tend to avoid it. But there are some films that I'd otherwise be interested in seeing, if it wasn't for the fact that there's a chance I'll see extreme violence. What I really hate are films that suddenly and inexplicably become violent, like The Departed.

I guess my point is, sometimes you can't just NOT watch it. It finds you.



I'm not bothered by any of it at all. Violence, nudity, swearing, I don't care at all.

Interesting to note the mention of violence against women in slashers. While I agree that it's there (and I could understand some worry about it) there's a large sub-section of female slasher fans who love it. It fulfills psycho-sexual fantasies, as well as showing strong willed women surviving (and often defeating) when the killer, when everyone else has succumbed.



I don't mind it if it isn't over done. There has been some movies I have seen where the cursing has just been stupid and it really didn't make sense. It seemed like they added it to add it. The same goes for nudity. If it is appropriate for then scene then I am cool with it. Also being only 16 I don't usually see many movies with a lot of these.



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I still don't get why people think violence is somehow preferable to sex. I think you should let people make the movies they want, but I'm more inclined to watch a European film with some sex and nudity than a slice-and-dice flick.
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Violence: Is natural. Everyone has a violent side and whether they work out, play sports, fight in war, play violent video games, watch violent films, have an streak of debate, or whatever, it is part of life.

Nudity: What some people don't seem to believe, is that underneath everyone's clothes is a nude body and quite frankly I don't see why we are so damn uptight about it. I agree that in some films is just there for the typical male film goer, but I don't see what's so wrong with it. Same thing goes for sex, in my opinin.

Swearing: Is learned, just like every other word we know. I think sometimes it sounds stupid, but in the right context, if it fits, I don't see anything wrong with it.

People freak about these things way to much.
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I guess my point is, sometimes you can't just NOT watch it. It finds you.
True, I'd believe that of the three things in question, violence would be the most difficult to avoid



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I don't mind cursing/sex/violence, usually. But I detest movies which show torture or abuse toward animals and children.
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I don't mind cursing/sex/violence, usually. But I detest movies which show torture or abuse toward animals and children.
Even when it's a mutated monster baby?




Depending, a lot of times violence can drive the plot (as in a murder mystery)
Would you agree, however, there is a difference in both the quantity and quality of violence used to advance the plot (as in Dial M for murder) and violence that is the plot, as in the Freddy Kruger series?

Nudity
This is one thing I really think they could cut out. I don't really see its purpose.
Certainly there are many classic love scenes in many of the older classic films without anyone taking their clothes off. Would a nude scene have added anything to Casablanca? Were actors so much better back then that they could portray lust and love without nudity while modern actors have to take their clothes off to get the message across?

Cursing
Foul language in movies isn't added in to offend anyone, but if it bothers you stick to television versions. True, like nudity, it isn't necessary . .
Now you've gotten to the crux of the matter. Foul language, nudity, and graphic violence blossomed in the movies not in some drive for reality but as a means of competing against TV that was keeping former movie-goers home--especially in prime time when people were watching such pasterized programs as Milton Berle, I Love Lucy and later the Brady Bunch on their TVs. But now TV is competing on that same level through cable and pay-for-view programs, so that they now say and show things on network TV that were banned from movies under some of the previous codes.



Mostly, I agree. I'm not a fan of extreme violence and gore at all, so I tend to avoid it. But there are some films that I'd otherwise be interested in seeing, if it wasn't for the fact that there's a chance I'll see extreme violence. What I really hate are films that suddenly and inexplicably become violent, like The Departed.

I guess my point is, sometimes you can't just NOT watch it. It finds you.
Same goes for sex. Years ago I took my teenage daughter to what I thought was a "safe" comedy, Private Benjamin, and just moments into the film, there's Goldie Hawn simulating oral sex in the front seat of a car. Made me extremely uncomfortable and embarassed.



Interesting to note the mention of violence against women in slashers. While I agree that it's there (and I could understand some worry about it) there's a large sub-section of female slasher fans who love it. It fulfills psycho-sexual fantasies,
Sorry, kid, that's right down there with the popular male theory that all women secretly want to be raped.