Israel or the Palestinians: Who do you support?

That is the land of Palestina.It was their for more than thousand of years.When Palestina was formed in 5. century it was violent times.Every country that was formed in that time and earlier was formed in violent way.If you are stonger,you will win,and thats all,no diplomacy,no anything else.Offcourse,that rule exist today in 21. century also,but tool is more money than weapon,but that is other story.So because Israel exist,than every race that still exist that have lost their ,,holy land,, in that time should get their teritorry back.That means that whole ancient map should be back.It is not fair to many other races that have lost their homeland in that way,Indians for example.And many others.And about expelling of Jews from every country in Europe,it is not Palestinian foulth because of that.They are not the ones that should be punished because of that.So,my point is-If some race posses some teritory for such a long time like 15 centuries,that means that it is theirs.Not of the ones before them.

On a side note, Waltz With Bashir was good!

The Israelis have no doubt killed Palestinian children, but what they have never done is deliberately targeted children i.e jumping on a bus full of kids and blowing them up. Perhaps I'd be more sympathetic towards the Palestinians if they weren't so callous and indiscriminate. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Israelis are squeaky clean, but they are the lesser of two evils.

answers to all:
"Palestina" is the name that the romans give to Israel.
as a way to try and destroy Israel, a group of Jordanians decided to call themselves "Palestinians", to make it look as if they were that their homeland.
Did you know that 70% of Jordanians consider themselves as Palestinians?
Besides, why can not they go to -30,20 countries have been Arabs?
Because it will make them an excuse to resistance "to us.

moreover, the Palestinians said more than once that they did not will recognize us as a Jewish state, ever.
however we do recognize the right of them to state.

to zed - the hamas , the The terrorist organization they chose him govern them, hiding rockets, guns, bombs, etc. in schools, at UN, homes of civilians.
The IDF, which is without doubt the most moral army in the world, even photographing the Palestinians (sending rockets on civilians in ads) as proof. there such a thing in the world?

We're bombing because we we have no choice, we are a modern country , democratic, we do not kill gays and we do not force anybody to our beliefs. We can not allow that citizens will have every day to run the shelter, so we bomb Kiss schools full of terror, then we will bomb the peace organization (yeah right) of the un from which rockets were sent every day
We suffered more in 2000 early year, now we have one of the strongest armies in in the world, and we leave this earth in our hands, even if it means some future terrorists will die.

to tyler , yea Waltz With Bashir is very good.

What is your source of informations?News on TV?

One more reason to be against Israel and support Palestina.

I don't support suicide bombers.

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Oh cool another thread promoting segregation way to go

There would be a lot more support for Palestine if they didn't target innocent children. Do you really think that if there is a god out there he's going to be welcoming these suicide bombers into heaven with open arms? This conflict has been going on for decades, Palestine has achieved nothing, other than further alienating them from the rest of the world. They have lost a lot of support and neutral supporters have been swayed onto the Israeli side, because of the atrocities they have committed - not against Israeli soldiers, but against women and children. I'm not pro Israeli or anti Palestine, I'm anti kids getting their f*ing legs blown off. You may argue Israel are guilty of killing women and children, possibly, but Palestine have turned it into a national past time. This conflict has parallels with the Northern Ireland conflict. Something that started out as a cause, descended into an open season slaughter of innocent women and children. And if the PLO continue with this as their MO, they'll go the same way the IRA did.

Every sentence in your post is nonsense,i dont know even where to start...first of all,dont put words i did not said.I never said that i think there is god who will be welcoming suicide bombers into heaven with open arm.That is just stupid,i dont believe in god and i dont support killings.That is just your patetic way to make me look like that,because clearly you have not any arguments.But only stupid person could buy that c*ap anyway.In order to have discussion with me,you wont put words in my text i havent said,just because it appeared like that to you.That is your problem that you see world in black and white.

Black and white,because situation is far much more complicated that you say.First i refuse to believe that Palestinians killed more civilians than Israelis.I think it was equal.Do you know how many killings media hidding or just dont know about them in wars?Do you know how many massacres in Balkan wars that happend in the 90s are hidden and discovered late?Do you know how many generals admit things that they did when they are dying or they are just gone crazy and cant keep that and admit everything that happened?I know how it was...Serbian media was hidding Serbian crimes,Croatian and Bosniaks was hidding their crimes,Albanians theirs...everyone was hidding their crimes and expose enemies crimes.Than world media choose what to expose from that.I just know that every wars and comflicts are functioning in that way.World media also pick sides,whose crimes to expose and whose not,world media will never say the entire truth,depending on what side correspond to their country political autority.Not just that,media also cant catch everything that is happening...And yes,do you know how many masacres happened as long ago as WW2 and was discovered in 21. century.Media is not valid sourse of informations,and what you said sounded so brainwashed by media...

Even if media is right,that isnt valid argument...who killed more children,or less are not argument at all...generals who did that,presidents,politicans,they are the ones to be blamed for that,not people.You know,you cant do wrong thing,and use exuses that someone did worse.

Now i hope that is clear to you about that killing of civilians now.

And you know,i wasnt even mentioning that in my previous post what you replied.I was saying that because Israel have one of the stongest armies and world in their hands are even one more big reason to support Palestinians.I dont want anyone to rule this world and have world in their hands.I will allways be against the ones who rule the world.And you replied to me with tottaly different story,how dare you.

Israel is hardlly in a position to rule the world.

Israel is very powerful puppet state of NATO and EU,so they can do whatever they want and get away with that.

I'm aware that not all media is to be believed, but when you have the Israelis reporting 30 children have been blown up AND THEN the perpetrators (The PLO) contacting the press admitting they did, you tend to believe the reports. In fact it's common practice for terror organisations such as the PLO IRA, ETA etc to take responsibility for bombings, killings etc as it raises their international profile and keeps their name in the press. And yours and every other pro-Palestinians arguments is the same - people criticise the PLO for their atrocities and the response is "oh well Israel bomb us, so it's ok for us to kill their children".... That is very warped logic. If Israel are such a bad country for killing innocent people, then how are Palestine not bad for doing the same thing? So your argument is this - one country is bad for killing people, the other country is not bad for killing people.. please explain??

There are 2 options:

1-You are trolling.
2-You are incredibly stupid.

Well lets just assume the latter. Explain it to me like I'm stupid. Explain to me how someone with half a brain can criticize one country for slaughtering innocent women and children whilst defending another country for doing the same thing. I've noticed that you refuse to answer any of my questions, so please humour me and at least try and attempt to answer them.

I answered your question and even more allready.I answered you more that you can even ask.But you didnt understud a thing clearly,and you are back again asking me same stupid pointless question.I dont think you are trol,you are just stupid.

I can't even be insulted by your comments, they make absolutely no sense!

They dont make sence to you,because you are too stupid.Enjoy in your stupdity,i wont bother you.

You are one of Gods special children. Always remember that when people are mean to you.

Why are you waiting for me to go offline to post something? Say whatever you want,you are not able for any discussion,and now you are defending yourself using kindergarden jokes...i should release that before even bother replying to you.You have no arguments in discussion,you have nothing.Say to me whatever you want,your stupidity wont go away.