The Zone of Interest (2023)

Turning this around, how many people died in concentration camps due to the fact that they closed their eyes to what was actually happening under the Nazis until it was too late?

Yeah, that's where I am on it. As I said, I will probably see it on video at some point when I can turn it off or take a break, but I've seen plenty of that stuff in my life. I admit to having an interest in discussing it with someone who was born way after those days, to see how much of an impact it might have on their mindset.

On the one hand, I've sat in the room with people that were really there, and on the other, younger people who were not outright ideological deniers, but who did not appreciate the enormity of it all.

I can see it being somewhat parallel to people who came aboard way after the American Civil War and who think that conflict was about parades and re-enactors.

I guess, at some point, every conflict gets trivialized, otherwise it would be hard to go on, being part of this warped species that we are.

All younger people on the left seem to know about Nazis is to use the word as a slur for anyone who has a different viewpoint. It's just become a word to quiet the opposition and stop thought.

My nephew, is a member of the new left. He has lots of opinions but no thinking to back it up. I'm sure we all know people like that on both sides of the aisle, but my nephew literally thinks anyone with a difference of opinion is a Nazi.

We ate in a local cafe and he wouldn't go back there because some cops were eating lunch there because ACAB. I'm like,"dude, even cops are allowed to eat." He is quite intelligent, but c'mon man.

Yeah, seen that. The cynical part of me recalls people like that when I was younger. Cops were evil until they got robbed or mugged and needed one. Unfortunately, also, nazi has become a euphemism for someone in authority that people don't like, which is an awful long way from the gestapo. Hopefully, most of us eventually realize that life in our world, at its worst, beats the heck out of Berlin in 1938.

Yeah, I was telling some kids on Facebook that culturally we had been here before to some extent. The sixties are the last time, I remember there being a huge gap in thinking between older people and younger people. They just laughed at me. "OK, Boomer," was the inference.
I am just shocked at the hatred between different factions nowadays. It is wild.
I remember when Trump ran the first time. I was the only Democrat people at work would talk to because I didn't feel it necessary to shame people for their thoughts. I would use facts in my arguments. I know, what was I thinking?

I wonder if this what was going on in Europe in the late thirties?

My nephew, is a member of the new left.

As I said, I will probably see it on video at some point when I can turn it off or take a break, but I've seen plenty of that stuff in my life. .

I have questions.

What is the New Left? How does one become a member?


That would be telling.



What does ACAB stand for?


All cops are bastards.

By the trailer, doesn't seem to be an Oscar winning movie.

Which films similar to the zone of interest have you seen?

Not referring to commercial films but actual footage from the time and place. Those sick f**ks thought that the world would thank them so they documented it, like Hieronymus Bosch's visions of hell. Those images have never left my mind. When I was a kid, I also met several people who were there and survived.

I have not seen the movie, but some of the real footage I saw looked like some still images I have seen promoting the movie, nazis in the camps trying to look like normal people. It's obvious from what little I've seen that the film makers wanted to look real in the color scenes of the family.

https://hmh.org/about/25-films-about-holocaust/


To show you were I am with this kind of subject matter, I was re-watching The Piano when the video came to the part where the gestapo dumped the old man in the wheelchair out the window, I said, "enough." I turned it off and that was the last film on the Holocaust I watched. It is just enough for me.

By the trailer, doesn't seem to be an Oscar winning movie.

I've never seen The Piano. It looks like Grade A Hollywood attention seeking claptrap.

That scene is actually from Polanski’s The Pianist, The Piano has got nothing to do with the Holocaust.

Yeah wait - is The Piano the Jane Campion film? I've seen that - it's excellent (apart from Harvey Keitel's accent and his little sausage appearance)

The one with Adrien Brody is the one which I haven't seen. Similar titles.

I've never seen The Piano. It looks like Grade A Hollywood attention seeking claptrap.

It's not.

Thanks, I may give it a go in that case. I'm not a huge fan of Adrien Brody, so I've put it off.