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People have been calling this a Bourne knock-off since it came out.
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It's certainly very low on classic Bond movie ingredients. And a more serious action / drama / thriller but nevertheless a great one. The Aston Martin, the chase scene, Mads and Eva Green make up for the lack of these ingredients. Much better movie than Jason B imho.
Recently posted a poll here on MoFo.
Which movie had the better chase scene; Point Break '91 vs Casino Royale, ended up a DRAW.
Recently posted a poll here on MoFo.
Which movie had the better chase scene; Point Break '91 vs Casino Royale, ended up a DRAW.
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Does anyone agree with me that the gritty nature and the lack of gadgets made this film more of a jason bourne film?
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The old Bond formula was getting weird. Movies like Die Another Day weren't meeting Bond standards, so reinventing Bond was quite late.
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Even though I like Casino Royale a lot better than Die Another Day, I didn't think that the Bond formula needed to be re-invented necessarily and the formula is still good. Still love CR though for what it is, and it's the best Craig Bond movie.
It's been forever since I've watched Goldfinger so I can't say this with 100% certainly, but otherwise Casino Royale is the best spy movie I've ever seen. Because of Goldfinger's success the Bond films were getting cheesier every decade until they took weird turns like for Die Another Day. I like my spy movies mature and serious. Leave the cartoon logic to Spy Kids.
EDIT: I totally forgot I posted twice here.
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I love the fact that this thread was revived all the way back from 2006.
But yeah, I would say this is one of the best Bond films. Not my personal favourite (Tomorrow Never Dies) but still a modern classic.
But yeah, I would say this is one of the best Bond films. Not my personal favourite (Tomorrow Never Dies) but still a modern classic.
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I love the fact that this thread was revived all the way back from 2006.
But yeah, I would say this is one of the best Bond films. Not my personal favourite (Tomorrow Never Dies) but still a modern classic.
But yeah, I would say this is one of the best Bond films. Not my personal favourite (Tomorrow Never Dies) but still a modern classic.
It needed more of the bond sountrack , it felt lacking in that regard, the bond tunes are barely used,
One of the worst situations with the music was in Tomorrow Never Dies, because David Arnold obviously planned his score around the theme tune he expected to be used, Surrender, rather than the Sheryl Crow theme that is actually used.
I liked what David Arnold did but I thought by the time Quantum of Solace came round his music was sounding tired and lacking in ideas. I was happy there was a change for Skyfall.
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The reasons for that made sense though, and I did quite like You Know My Name and how it worked as an antecedent of the Bond theme.
One of the worst situations with the music was in Tomorrow Never Dies, because David Arnold obviously planned his score around the theme tune he expected to be used, Surrender, rather than the Sheryl Crow theme that is actually used.
I liked what David Arnold did but I thought by the time Quantum of Solace came round his music was sounding tired and lacking in ideas. I was happy there was a change for Skyfall.
One of the worst situations with the music was in Tomorrow Never Dies, because David Arnold obviously planned his score around the theme tune he expected to be used, Surrender, rather than the Sheryl Crow theme that is actually used.
I liked what David Arnold did but I thought by the time Quantum of Solace came round his music was sounding tired and lacking in ideas. I was happy there was a change for Skyfall.
while i do agree, but still the use of music in skyfall felt a bit not of a bond film, but rather a normal thriller under the name of 007, if u know what i mean, i do prefer the music used in the pierce brosnan movies, disregarding the fact that casino royale is a reboot, and james bond didn t get his 007 status yet
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Does anyone agree with me that the gritty nature and the lack of gadgets made this film more of a jason bourne film?
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I saw some previews of the remake of "Casino Royale", and decided that I liked the old, original 1961 film version of "Casino Royale" best. Remakes of good, older films very seldom come out well.
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I saw some previews of the remake of "Casino Royale", and decided that I liked the old, original 1961 film version of "Casino Royale" best. Remakes of good, older films very seldom come out well.
Except most people don't even consider that one a proper adaptation for what I hear are many good reasons.
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Casino Royale (2006)
This is my favorite 007 movies. Most Bond movies are generally entertaining, but not exactly great cinema. This movie actually tried to be a great work, and tried to tell a story for adults. This is the Bond film I would recommend to people who typically don't like silly action movies.
The movie is frontloaded with a lot of grand action sequences, which help set up for a more grounded 2nd or third act, that show that even simpler and minimalist scenes can still have a lot of tension.
Craig's performance is peak Bond. Danger, masculinity, with some charisma and romance. The cast is all-around stellar.
The key for this movie was choosing which conventions from previous Bond movies to keep (i.e. keeping Judi Dench as M) and which ones to cut (excessive gadgets). This movie uses Bond tropes where appropriate but doesn't try to force them.
For the previous Bond films, EON went with lesser known directors, but with this one, they went with Martin Campbell (who made Brosnan's Goldeneye), a director they know could help debut a new Bond actor and capitalize their strengths.
This was (relatively) more grounded and accurate to Fleming's source material, but also tied it into modern 2000's themes like terrorism to make it relevant, so it feels both like a classic Bond film and a modern action movie.
Rating: 9/10
This is my favorite 007 movies. Most Bond movies are generally entertaining, but not exactly great cinema. This movie actually tried to be a great work, and tried to tell a story for adults. This is the Bond film I would recommend to people who typically don't like silly action movies.
The movie is frontloaded with a lot of grand action sequences, which help set up for a more grounded 2nd or third act, that show that even simpler and minimalist scenes can still have a lot of tension.
Craig's performance is peak Bond. Danger, masculinity, with some charisma and romance. The cast is all-around stellar.
The key for this movie was choosing which conventions from previous Bond movies to keep (i.e. keeping Judi Dench as M) and which ones to cut (excessive gadgets). This movie uses Bond tropes where appropriate but doesn't try to force them.
For the previous Bond films, EON went with lesser known directors, but with this one, they went with Martin Campbell (who made Brosnan's Goldeneye), a director they know could help debut a new Bond actor and capitalize their strengths.
This was (relatively) more grounded and accurate to Fleming's source material, but also tied it into modern 2000's themes like terrorism to make it relevant, so it feels both like a classic Bond film and a modern action movie.
Rating: 9/10