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Watched Viy the other night and almost put on Witchhammer just because it was on the same disc, but my gut was telling me not to. Sounds like I made the right call.

I can't imagine anyone not loving Viy, even if it's just to chuckle at. The creature designs and more importantly some of the visual tricks at the end are just so darned charming.
I agree. I was genuinely shocked when my Horror-loving, Evil Dead-loving friends told me they didn't like it - to the degree they were surprised I'd recommend it.



Watched Viy the other night and almost put on Witchhammer just because it was on the same disc, but my gut was telling me not to. Sounds like I made the right call.

I can't imagine anyone not loving Viy, even if it's just to chuckle at. The creature designs and more importantly some of the visual tricks at the end are just so darned charming.

Withchammer is really good, but it's pretty far out of the horror box. Even I would struggle to categorize it as such, and I consider Rolling Stones: Gimme Shelter to be a horror movie.



Little Monsters 2019 is disappointing. Lupita absolutely kills it in her interactions with the kids and the zombies, but those are not the biggest focus of the movie. She appears about 15 minutes after we get to meet our would-be protagonist. The guy is a complete jackass, a pervert and just a jerk to the kids, talking about his son, quote unquote, slaying puss in school because he gets a kiss from a girl. Those are all circa 5 years old, by the way.

So that's our main guy, who shares screen time with what the marketing team would like you to believe is the lead actress, although the plot actually revolves around his arc. Another issue that comes up is Josh Gad. He's a children's entertainer, but he hates kids and is the biggest douche off camera. Bet you've never seen that before. The scheme the writers went for was the make the main man more appealing by having an even worse character for him to bounce off of. If this had been all about a kindergarten teacher trying to keep her class together during a field trip interrupted by zombies, it would have been sooooo much better.



Withchammer is really good, but it's pretty far out of the horror box. Even I would struggle to categorize it as such, and I consider Rolling Stones: Gimme Shelter to be a horror movie.
Right, it looks 100% up my alley, to be clear, but there's rules I gotta follow in October.
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I agree. I was genuinely shocked when my Horror-loving, Evil Dead-loving friends told me they didn't like it - to the degree they were surprised I'd recommend it.

My rule of thumbs is to always assume any horror fan I meet probably has really shitty taste in movies. There are of course exceptions, but it's a bias that has served me well over the years because of course they don't like Viy, and of course they don't like Martin, and of course they don't like Blood For Dracula, and of course they don't like anything that maybe takes a little patience, or puts them out of their comfort zone.


Ultimately, it keeps me from being too disappointed when I see how often horror fans react so negatively to anything that is a little different from what they are used to.



In the first half hour, I really didn't think I Saw The Television Glow was going to work for me. Everything about it seemed so self-conscious and mannered. But it turned out, these elements that were rubbing me the wrong way initially, worked in the films favour as it became clearer that this film is about not knowing who you are and being empty inside and the terrible sadness of filling yourself with nothing but pop culture products to find your identity and prove that there is somebody actually living inside of you after all.



A horror film that dares to be a little different. That takes patience and empathy to uncrack. That makes me a little hopeful that there are alternative voices out there that need to be heard.



And I've already assumed most horror fans will hate it.



In the first half hour, I really didn't think I Saw The Television Glow was going to work for me. Everything about it seemed so self-conscious and mannered. But it turned out, these elements that were rubbing me the wrong way initially, worked in the films favour as it became clearer that this film is about not knowing who you are and being empty inside and the terrible sadness of filling yourself with nothing but pop culture products to find your identity and prove that there is somebody actually living inside of you after all.



A horror film that dares to be a little different. That takes patience and empathy to uncrack. That makes me a little hopeful that there are alternative voices out there that need to be heard.



And I've already assumed most horror fans will hate it.
god the ending felt like a kick to the chest. i wept.



My rule of thumbs is to always assume any horror fan I meet probably has really shitty taste in movies. There are of course exceptions, but it's a bias that has served me well over the years because of course they don't like Viy, and of course they don't like Martin, and of course they don't like Blood For Dracula, and of course they don't like anything that maybe takes a little patience, or puts them out of their comfort zone.


Ultimately, it keeps me from being too disappointed when I see how often horror fans react so negatively to anything that is a little different from what they are used to.
Yeah, I always get the sense when someone describes themselves as a real horror fan, they usually have a few specific types in mind.

Glad you liked I Saw the TV Glow. Still probably my current, favorite movie of the year.



Witchhammer is probably comparable to Witchfinder General and The Devils in terms of horror categorization. Even further from them was The Crucible which was included in criterion's Witches collections, I think. Which, I don't disagree about it feeling not the spooky Halloween vibes one wants, but I guess if you imagine The Witchfinder General, but done during the torture porn era of horror, it kind of makes sense how these things were classified as horror back then. Well, throw in a parable about authoritarianism coming to power, so political horror as well.


You should like VIY. It's a bit children's folk tale horror, but the ending is a lot of fun and appropriate for the season.

Oh I love VIY, actually watched it a year or two ago before I got this box set, it being on it just gives me a great excuse to watch it again.



In the first half hour, I really didn't think I Saw The Television Glow was going to work for me. Everything about it seemed so self-conscious and mannered. But it turned out, these elements that were rubbing me the wrong way initially, worked in the films favour as it became clearer that this film is about not knowing who you are and being empty inside and the terrible sadness of filling yourself with nothing but pop culture products to find your identity and prove that there is somebody actually living inside of you after all.



A horror film that dares to be a little different. That takes patience and empathy to uncrack. That makes me a little hopeful that there are alternative voices out there that need to be heard.



And I've already assumed most horror fans will hate it.
I think the power of the film is that it’s a pretty explicit trans allegory but it approaches its subject with such specificity and elegance, that it’s themes of identity and isolation become universal.

If it ended one shot earlier, it wouldn’t be a horror movie.



I didn't even realize there was a vol 2, I wants it, I needs it.
VOLUME 2

I'd preordered it so I guess the release date was this week.
This volume includes a few that I was already a fan of but didn't own, so I'm very pleased.

(Blood Tea and Red String / November / City of the Dead / etc)



I think the power of the film is that it’s a pretty explicit trans allegory but it approaches its subject with such specificity and elegance, that it’s themes of identity and isolation become universal.

If it ended one shot earlier, it wouldn’t be a horror movie.
it's so cool there's a relatively mainstream movie that's gonna be a lot of people's trans awakening but sheesh that's rough way to have your egg cracked lol. it hurt enough as a reminder of how i felt suffering from dysphoria before knowing what it was i can't imagine what it would feel like seeing this while in the midst of that.



Watched Viy the other night and almost put on Witchhammer just because it was on the same disc, but my gut was telling me not to. Sounds like I made the right call.
I got about 5-10 minutes into Witchhammer last month and immediately it was like "Oh, this is going to be a downer political allegory? No thanks!" (And I mean "no thanks!" for that moment. At some point I'll watch it in full and the photography alone is clearly very strong).



it's so cool there's a relatively mainstream movie that's gonna be a lot of people's trans awakening but sheesh that's rough way to have your egg cracked lol. it hurt enough as a reminder of how i felt suffering from dysphoria before knowing what it was i can't imagine what it would feel like seeing this while in the midst of that.
I’d like to imagine that it would both operate as genuinely feeling seen while also providing a bit of a cautionary tale. Or as the film states, that “it’s not too late.”



I thought Viy was good, but the monster designs/visual tricks I loved mostly just appeared in the final sequence. While some of the proceeding segments had their charms as well, I felt its greatness was confined to such a small portion of the film. I'd be down to give it another shot though since its pacing is pretty lean.
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I’d like to imagine that it would both operate as genuinely feeling seen while also providing a bit of a cautionary tale. Or as the film states, that “it’s not too late.”
yeah it's those things but this movie is mean about it. this shit is scared straight for closeted trans people lol.