The MoFo Top 100 Musicals Countdown

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There's something there to it, especially since An American in Paris, which came out a year or so before Singin' in the Rain won a lot of awards and was pretty well regarded during its time while it took Singin' in the Rain longer to catch on and has since become canon even among the general public who maybe have seen only a dozen or two films before the 1980s while An American in Paris is generally reserved for those who want to dig deeper into older films.

Would that make the comparison more apt between Citizen Kane and How Green Was My Valley? I've seen neither An American in Paris nor How Green Was My Valley, so clearly that analogy must hold.



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1. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
2. La La Land (2016)
3. Begin Again (2013)
4. tick, tick...BOOM! (2021)
5. Alice in Wonderland (1951)
6. The Lion King (1994)
7. Sing Street (2016)
8. Les Misérables (2012)
9. Pinocchio (1940)
10. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)
11. Aladdin (1992)
12. Moana (2016)
13. A Star Is Born (2018)
14. West Side Story (2021)
15. Once (2007)
16. Grease (1978)
17. 42nd Street (1933)
18. In The Heights (2021)
19. Brigadoon (1954)
20. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)
21. Meet Me in St. Louis (1944)
22. The Broken Circle Breakdown (2012)
23. Beyond the Sea (2004)
24. Chicago (2002)
25. The Brave Little Toaster (1987)



Oh, it's over already. I didn't vote and think I've seen a whopping 13/100 (+ couple of big maybies as a child). I'm not really into musicals (on stage they're fine but not on screen).
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I considered Repo! because I really liked the concept, but I really didn't like the songs - especially "Seventeen" which I thought was downright awful.
That's definitely one of the weaker songs in my opinion.
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Now that it's over, and to complement my "Finish Line" stats, here are some other countdown stats...



There were 19 ties through the countdown, 14 of them in the first half. Thirteen (13) of those were two-way ties, four (4) of them 3-way ties, and two (2) of them 4-way ties. Only 33 entries were not tied with others.

The two biggest point gaps were in the Top 5. The biggest one was 151, between #3 The Sound of Music (425) and #2 The Wizard of Oz (576). The second one was 101, between #4 West Side Story (324) and #3 [i]The Sound of Music (425).



Like @Thursday Next said, the film that was present in most ballots was #2 The Wizard of Oz, which was present in 36 ballots. Not that far from #1, which was in 34 ballots, though.



The five (5) films with the highest RT scores are:
- #1: Singin' in the Rain (1952) - 100%
- #26: Pinocchio (1940) - 100%
- #33: Meet Me in St. Louis (1944) - 96%
- #58: Top Hat (1935) - 100%
- #88: Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933) - 100%



Interestingly, all of them from the "classic" period of the 1930s and 1940s.

The only films with the a "Rotten" RT score so far are:
- #57: The Greatest Showman (2017) - 57%
- #59: Jesus Christ Superstar (1973) - 50%
- #60: Annie (1982) - 50%



On the side of IMDb, these are the Top "5" with the highest rating:
- #6: The Lion King (1994) - 8.5
- #97: Amadeus (1984) - 8.4
- #1: Singin' in the Rain (1952) - 8.3
- #2: The Wizard of Oz (1939) - 8.1
- #3: The Sound of Music (1965) - 8.1

While the ones with the lowest IMDb rating are:
- #56: Pennies from Heaven (1981) - 6.5
- #81: Purple Rain (1984) - 6.5
- #51: The Lure (2015) - 6.3
- #52: The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992) - 6.3
- #86: Into the Woods (2014) - 5.9



I think thhe fact that our #1 and #2 are among the ones with the highest RT score and/or the highest IMDb rating, and also the two that were present in most ballots, means that our selection was more or less within the expected norm.


To that matter, I might ask... what was your biggest surprise from the countdown? meaning a film you thought wouldn't make it but did... or a film you were sure would make it, but didn't.
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I didn't vote because I'm not a big musical fan. But I do enjoy some.

They are not in any order:

Xanadu
Hans Christian Andersen
Brigadoon
Fame
Tommy
The Wall
Singing In The Rain
Head
Across The Universe
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Phantom Of The Opera (with Gerard Butler)
Bohemian Rhapsody

Everyone who knows me knows A Clockwork Orange and The Wicker Man are my favorite films. They may be musicals but I don't consider them musicals



My sincere thank you to @Thursday Next for hosting and doing such a wonderful job, and of course, to everyone who participated, either through conversation/sharing their love of their favorites or, especially, submitting a ballot to help make this possible. Thank you all!




Didn't I post my "Finish Line"?? I could've swore I posted the "Finish Line" stats last night, but it seems I fell asleep halfway through



As for what's next (since every countdown thread eventually becomes a thread about the next countdown ), last time we decided that it would speed things along to take the top two vote-getters and do them in that order, rather than go through the month-plus-long process of voting (since it usually takes multiple votes and multiple weeks per vote). I think we should probably hold to that.

I said at the time that we could have this simply be the default, but that if there was clearly a lot of push for a switch, we could then have another vote instead to effectively "jump the line." My sense so far is that there's not overwhelming desire for this, which means the 90s refresh would be next. I'll go bump the relevant thread and we'll see about finding a host.



The Wizard of Oz: In which an idiotic teenager lets her little dog bite the neighbor, then flees to a far away land where she murders a woman, steals her shoes, then takes up with three strange men, gets high on opiates, and also kills the dead woman’s sister.
Reminds me of this classic:




Stats: Finish Line




Now that we've finally reached the finish line, here are some stats:

Decade Breakdown
  • 1920s = 0
  • 1930s = 7
  • 1940s = 6
  • 1950s = 13
  • 1960s = 13
  • 1970s = 14
  • 1980s = 11
  • 1990s = 10
  • 2000s = 11
  • 2010s = 13
  • 2020s = 2

What an ending! Imagine having the 1950s and the 2010s trading leads all through the countdown, only to have the 1970s run past them just on the last couple of batches and win with a total of 14. The 1950s, 1960s, and 2010s weren't far behind, though, with 13 each. Overall, a very balanced spread across all decades.



Recurring Directors
  • Vincente Minnelli = 4
  • Ben Sharpsteen = 4*
  • Wilfred Jackson = 4*
  • Stanley Donen = 3**
  • John Carney = 3
  • John Musker & Ron Clements = 3
  • Hamilton Luske = 3*
  • Robert Wise = 2
  • Bob Fosse = 2
  • George Cukor = 2
  • Jacques Demy = 2
  • Rob Marshall = 2
  • Norman Jewison = 2
  • Michael Curtiz = 2
  • Bill Roberts = 2*
  • David Hand = 2*
  • Milos Forman = 2
  • Stanley Donen = 2
  • Tim Burton = 2**
  • Coen Brothers = 2
  • Norman Ferguson = 2*
  • T. Hee = 2*

As was expected, I guess, Vincente Minnelli remained at the top of the list with four (4) entries: Meet Me in St. Louis (#33), An American in Paris (#42), The Band Wagon (#80), and Gigi (#85). Stanley Donen, who co-directed Singin' in the Rain with Gene Kelly, ended with three (3), and Robert Wise had a nice two-fer with two (2) entries back-to-back to join the group.

* Re: Disney's animators and directors, there was no change from the last batches. Ben Sharpsteen and Wilfred Jackson remain at the top with their work in 4 films, Hamilton Luske with 3, and Bill Roberts, Norman Ferguson, and T. Hee with 2 each.

** Both Tim Burton and Stanley Donen shared directing credits on Corpse Bride and Singin' in the Rain respectively, with Mike Johnson and Gene Kelly each.

No changes in animation in the Top 5, so we ended up with eighteenth (18) animated film in the countdown; or 18.5, if you wanna give Mary Poppins half a point for its animated sequences.



Thanks, Thursday Next. You're the host with the most.

Musicals aren't precisely my cup of tea as the many animated Disney movies on my ballot indicate, so I didn't participate as much as I would have liked. Anyway, here's my ballot. The Wizard of Oz is a no-brainer for #1, so I'm glad it did so well. I'm ashamed I haven't seen Singin' in the Rain yet, but I definitely will. I bolded the ones that didn't make the top 100.

1. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
2. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
3. The Lion King (1994)
4. Beauty and the Beast (1991)
5. Fantasia (1940)
6. The Sound of Music (1965)
7. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)
8. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001)
9. Pinocchio (1940)
10. Sing Street (2016)
11. Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
12. RRR (2022)
13. A Hard Day's Night (1964)
14. Mary Poppins (1964)
15. Phantom of the Paradise (1974)
16. The Little Mermaid (1989)
17. West Side Story (1961)
18. Once (2007)
19. Aladdin (1992)
20. The Muppet Movie (1979)
21. The Jungle Book (1967)
22. In The Heights (2021)
23. Tokyo Tribe (2014)
24. Pink Floyd - The Wall (1982)
25. Dumbo (1941)



...why do you think Singin' in the Rain has endured so much more while An American in Paris, while hardly obscure, pales in comparison for most viewers?
Singin' in the Rain is a billion times funnier and more fun.

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Thanks, Thursday Next. You're the host with the most.

Musicals aren't precisely my cup of tea as the many animated Disney movies on my ballot indicate, so I didn't participate as much as I would have liked. The '90s, however...I am so on top of that!

Anyway, here's my ballot. The Wizard of Oz is a no-brainer for #1, so I'm glad it did so well. I'm ashamed I haven't seen Singin' in the Rain yet, but I definitely will. I bolded the ones that didn't make the top 100.

1. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
2. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
3. The Lion King (1994)
4. Beauty and the Beast (1991)
5. Fantasia (1940)
6. The Sound of Music (1965)
7. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)
8. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001)
9. Pinocchio (1940)
10. Sing Street (2016)
11. Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
12. RRR (2022)
13. A Hard Day's Night (1964)
14. Mary Poppins (1964)
15. Phantom of the Paradise (1974)
16. The Little Mermaid (1989)
17. West Side Story (1961)
18. Once (2007)
19. Aladdin (1992)
20. The Muppet Movie (1979)
21. The Jungle Book (1967)
22. In The Heights (2021)
23. Tokyo Tribe (2014)
24. Pink Floyd - The Wall (1982)
25. Dumbo (1941)
Nice to see Snow White so high.
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Nice to see Snow White so high.
I think it will remain my favorite Disney animated movie. I'm a Stan for the dwarves and all their songs from "Hi Ho" to the "Silly Song" and anything that parodies them (the seven Duffs in The Simpsons, Rammstein's "Sonne" music video, etc.)



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Forgot to say Thanks @Thief for all of his work on those cool stats that he post! I think we all enjoy those.

And Thanks to @Holden Pike for posting his past countdown info and pics.

Oh and thanks to the person who helped to get this Musical Countdown rolling, otherwise we'd probably never had done a musical countdown.



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I didn't vote because I'm not a big musical fan. But I do enjoy some.

They are not in any order:

Xanadu
Hans Christian Andersen
Brigadoon
Fame
Tommy
The Wall
Singing In The Rain
Head
Across The Universe
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Phantom Of The Opera (with Gerard Butler)
Bohemian Rhapsody

Everyone who knows me knows A Clockwork Orange and The Wicker Man are my favorite films. They may be musicals but I don't consider them musicals
Xanadu not making it can be directly attributed to you and I not getting lists in in time. Will Holden ever forgive us?
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Xanadu not making it can be directly attributed to you and I not getting lists in in time. Will Holden ever forgive us?
I'm surprised that ppl haven't heard of Head from 1968. I know about it and I was born in 1967. Of course, I saw it years after. Probably in the 80's

And any film I watch is DAMN GREAT!