The MoFo Top 100 Musicals Countdown

Predictions for my ballot:

1. a sure thing
2. a sure thing
3. Frozen (2013)
4. a sure thing
5. The Lure (2015)
6. Into the Woods (2014)
7. a sure thing
8. probably won't make it
9. a sure thing
10. will likely make it
11. Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)
12. a sure thing
13. a sure thing
14. a sure thing
15. a sure thing
16. will likely make it
17. Annie (1982)
18. probably won't make it
19. probably won't make it
20. probably won't make it
21. probably won't make it
22. probably won't make it
23. a sure thing
24. a sure thing
25. A Week Away (2021)

Predictions for my ballot:

1. who cares
2. who cares
3. who cares
4. who cares
5. who cares
6. who cares
7. who cares
8. who cares
9. who cares
10. who cares
11. who cares
12. w ho cares
13. who cares
14.who cares
15. who cares
16. who cares
17. who cares
18. who cares
19. who cares
20. who cares
21.who cares
22. who cares
23. who cares
24. who cares
25. who cares

It's bound to happen because of repeat votes for films. Obviously personal tastes are subjective, but can anyone truly objectively say that the Muppets Christmas Movie is a better musical than say Band Wagon, Easter Parade, or The Smiling Lieutenant? Probably not, but there's an element of popularity contest to these lists AND another huge thing is when people make these lists they are going to put the canonical films such as Singin' in the Rain and The Wizard of Oz at the top... both of which will certainly make the top 10, however when people make their lists they probably start to "run out" of musicals they've seen around their 15-20 mark in their entries and will default to things like The Muppets Christmas movies or Garfield Sings Holiday Songs or Power Rangers the Musical, just because unless a person is specifically a musical buff or afficionado or is more than a casual film nerd, many people probably struggle to name 25 musicals let alone rank them. I had probably about 50 on my list that were serious contenders and managed to widdle it down to 25, but those reasons might be why we get a countdown that will have a film like SpongeBob Sings the Blues interspersed between Top Hat and Rocky Horror Picture Show. I'm OK with it.

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I just want to see you argue with Holden again.

The Muppet Christmas Carol is a great movie but I put it aside for, ahem, another movie that...um, never mind.

I have never heard of The Lure till today but wow, it looks pretty great!

Haven't see Inside Llewyn Davis but as it's a Coen Brothers film, I need to.

So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#14. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers #71 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).

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Yes, yes it is.

I watched The Lure for some reason in 2022 and liked it enough to put it on my ballot. Someone smart here must've recommended it to me.

Going by the release date I haven't seen the Muppet movie. If it came out in the 70's then probably yes.

5. Charlotte's Web (#79)
10. The Lure (#51)
17. Calamity Jane (#84)
20. Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (#66)
21. A Star is Born 1954 (#67)
25. 42nd Street (#76)

The Muppet Christmas Carol probably has nostalgia on its side much more than those other movies do. It's a Christmas movie aimed at children and people tend to have a lot of fondness for childhood movies and holiday movies, so a holiday kid's movie is going to have a special place in a lot of people's hearts.

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How my ballot will go down:

1. If this doesn't make it there will be trouble
2. I doubt it, though GBG loves this so maybe?
*3. South Pacific (1958)...#54
*4. Calamity Jane (1953)...#84
5. ! It better make it.
6. If this isn't Top 10 I'm dancing in the dirt
7. This is going to show up tomorrow
*8. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (1954)...#71
*9. White Christmas (1954)...#82
*10. Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933)...#88
11. Maybe, it is almost Noirvemenber
12. Outside chance if you like to gamble
13. Maybe if MoFos are cool cats
*14. Top Hat (1935)...................#58
15. Will be top 10
16. Ding, Ding, Ding that damn movie better make it
17. Of course it will make it
18. Also boycotted I'm guessing
19. If this doesn't make it, Gideon will be so disappointed!
*20. Pennies from Heaven (1981)...#75
*21. Funny Girl (1968)...#77
*22. A Star Is Born (1954)...#67
*23. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)...#69
24. Probably boycotted
25. Would've made it if more people had seen it

I thought I had seen The Lure but I didn't remember it having any resemblance to a musical so I must have watched a different Mermaid Horror movie. There are several.

I haven't seen Muppet Christmas Carol.

I like The Lure quite a bit, but it didn't make my ballot. One sequence in it sticks out like a sore thumb as being bad, but the rest is very good.

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Number 12 was a curveball.

When the Ws and the Hs separate... well, you know it's something special.

It was also my #4!


My favorite retelling of the classic story, which elevated itself above all other Muppet movies with the dynamite banter between Gonzo and Rizzo, and Michael Caine playing his part as serious as death.


I don't know if any other Muppet Movies will make the list, but I'm really glad this one did.



The Lure was alright, but didn't strike me as a musical. Wouldn't have made my list in any case.

Muppet Christmas Carol was my #8. It's a really good adaptation and just an all-around charming film.

I am surprised that The Lure was not on my ballot. I really enjoyed it, and think it's a pretty audacious mixture of genres (it's a fantasy-musical-horror-drama-romance?). It would have easily knocked at least my #25 off my list, I just must not have considered it musical enough.

1. I'm honestly not sure. I hope other people consider it a musical too.
2. Most likely
3. Almost certainly
4. The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992)
5. Without question
6. A Star Is Born (1954)
7. Almost certainly
8. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
9. Yellow Submarine (1968)
10. Almost certainly
11. Most likely
12. Without question
13. Most likely
14. Most likely
15. Uncertain
16. Most likely
17. Without question
18. Most likely
19. Most likely
20. Uncertain
21. Frozen (2013)
22. Without question
23. Most likely
24. Almost certainly
25. Muppet Treasure Island (1996)

I want to be there with you, but Star Wars is not a musical. Sorry!

Muppet Christmas Carol should had been on my ballot.
I am ashamed.

The Lure was #5 of 18 on my ballot. A good, dark fairy tale about the despair of wanting something you can't have (or something, it's been a few years. Definitely plan to watch again).


Inside Llewyn Davis - I asked very late preliminary thread if other people were considering it a diegetic musical, because it had never crossed my mind so I had never thought of it as one (requirements or not, not relevant. I just meant compared to Once, which would be the diegetic musical that one would presumably compare it to in terms of musical-ness). All I got was a single, "no." So I just left another blank space on my ballot, rather than put it on my ballot, probably in the top 5. Judging by people's responses here vs what people actually cast, I don't have a good sense still if I should have included it on my ballot.


All or the others, I'd have to look back on the first page (currently on my phone), but none of the titles are retaining in my mind, which might imply I didn't have any interest in them. I guess I could conceivably watch a Muppet movie and enjoy it.

ETA: going back to the first page, I have seen Top Hat, but apart a joke here or there that landed, it almost seemed designed to be what I didn't want in a movie. I was curious about Pennies From Heaven (which I saw 5-10 minutes of as a young teen channel surfing), but did not get to it for this countdown.